*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
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Now that would be beneficial to ISU. I don't see it happening though, I'm not sure it would work very well in practice.
Well, obviously we already mentioned Shatel. When Tramel calls the Big 12 "Conference Chaos" and writes "Any chance to find smooth sailing, you take it," yeah, I'd say he understands the decision to move...even if he doesn't agree with it. Same goes for Mellinger. May not agree with the decision, but they ALL understand the motivations.
Who's in the best position to determine whether MU to the SEC "makes sense?" Out of state sports columnists? Message board posters from rival schools? The national sports broadcasting cartel (ESPN)?
I'd say that's a decision best left to the SEC conference, its members, and the curators, adminstrators, alums and supporters of the University of Missouri. And Al's straw poll of tailgaters aside, they all seem to be in support of the move.
If the Cyclones were about to accept an invite from the B1G tomorrow, what do you think these regional sports columnists would write? Blah blah blah..."farm school in the middle of nowhere" blah blah blah "never won anything" blah blah blah "can't compete with Mich, OSU, etc." blah blah blah "adds nothing the B1G doesn't already have." And on and on.
But if it were the right move for ISU, and the B1G was in favor of it, you'd go, and ignore their nonsense. You'd move because it's what the people who care about ISU want. And that's all that matters.
Well...that, and watching Gary Barta's head explode.
This. The B1G is as much about academic prestige (well it was until the whole Nebraska thing) as it is athletics.
HoopsTournament
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If ISU (or Mizzou for that matter) ever went to the Big Ten, it would be because they would be running TO something. Mizzou going to the SEC is running AWAY out of fear and inferiority complex more than it is running to something.
From a KU board.
According to Bob Fresco on KC radio...
Here is the latest on MU from a source involved in the talks: MU curators met this AM talked about the pension plan to buy more time. Over the last 72 hours MU has been in serious discussions with the Big 12 to stay. OU and UT want a 10 team league and can sell it better w MU than BYU. OU and UT realize that if they give a little here, they can all gain a lot on the back end. MU does not seem to care either way if its a 10 or 12 team league. Some SEC proponents have now been swung back in favor of Big 12. Situation still very fluid.
According to Bob Fresco on KC radio...
Here is the latest on MU from a source involved in the talks: MU curators met this AM talked about the pension plan to buy more time. Over the last 72 hours MU has been in serious discussions with the Big 12 to stay. OU and UT want a 10 team league and can sell it better w MU than BYU. OU and UT realize that if they give a little here, they can all gain a lot on the back end. MU does not seem to care either way if its a 10 or 12 team league. Some SEC proponents have now been swung back in favor of Big 12. Situation still very fluid.
Read your monster thread! We had that exact information a page ago already.:realmad:
If we aren't careful, this thread could result in repetitive information or rumor mongering.
CycloneErik
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Great. 10 means we ride this whirlwind again next year with the first rumor that someone wants to leave. With 12, it's not perfect, but it's potentially a situation that leaves us with a solid 11 remaining. 11 at least seems like a conference, whereas 9 brings that swirl of rumors/twitters that the conference is dead/dying/on death's door.
I really hate the idea of stopping at 10. That looks to me like a way for OU and Texas to hold this thing hostage for their yearly whims.
I think Oklahoma City would be the place to hold bball tournament considering the way thing are going in the B12, SEC, and NBA. There is no allegiance to KC at this point if Mizzou goes SEC. It could be held in Witchita even or Des Moines. Once Mizzou blasts off for greener pastures, it will be like they do not exist. I say this because who cares about CU and Nebby at this point? The OWH is showing hot Hawkeye man caves. OWH is talking about McD and his oprodigies. The local TV stations are carrying Big ten games on weekeneds. Yep, if The ZOU goes, how fast we forget.
Totally agree. This hunkering down is all about poaying the exit fee.
Did they think they would get divorced for free?:swoon: Will they get off the pot by Friday?
The days of jumping conferences may be adrawing to a close when the big exit fees are increased.:sad: Seems to me the ZOU fee should be bigger than the aTm fee since we were happy to get rid of all the mason jars.I think that make the most sense. KU fans will still come in droves to OKC, and probably some KSU fans too. NU and CU never had much of presence at the BB tourney, anyway.
If MU leaves and the tourney drops out of KC, the only fanbase that really suffers is ISU. Big difference between a 2-3 hr. drive to KC and 9 hrs. to OKC.
And it's even LONGER if you avoid driving through Missouri, lest your gas taxes go to support roads that MU fans drive on. :smile:
How about 9 conference games and 3 UNIs games (UNI was just as good as Iowa this year)?
Anyone listen to 810 yesterday?? Supposedly Mizzou is looking for a new University President and supposedly he was chosen in July, but they haven't made the announcement or formalized it yet because he is an ISU grad (read Big 8/Big 12 guy) and Mizzou is afraid he will impact the conference decision if they put him in place too soon.
Speculation of course, but interesting none the less.
Speculation of course, but interesting none the less.
From what I have seen this year, both Nebby and CU fortunes have declined this year. Just do not look at the record, look on the field. CU is being blown out, and Nebby is couple injuries from tough times.
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Interesting quote from OSU coach Travis Ford. He's obviously heard this from somewhere, and its interesting he'd drop the names at media day.
Big 12 college basketball coaches sound off on expansion, round-robin schedule - ESPN
Oklahoma State coach Travis Ford wants to see the Big 12 pull an ACC and be proactive, going after elite basketball schools the way the ACC did with Pitt and Syracuse.
"I have so many mixed emotions here, but I'd love for Louisville, West Virginia and Cincinnati to come in for basketball and make us a 12-team league," Ford said. "But if we went 12 and went divisions, I wouldn't be a fan of that. I do like 10. I like that the schedule is fair. And I think it will be exciting for fans to see all the teams come through the gym. We'll have a true champion. A guy like me from Kentucky, I'd love to see Louisville. Boy, what a great basketball league you'd have. But we're in a good position now."
Big 12 college basketball coaches sound off on expansion, round-robin schedule - ESPN
Oklahoma State coach Travis Ford wants to see the Big 12 pull an ACC and be proactive, going after elite basketball schools the way the ACC did with Pitt and Syracuse.
"I have so many mixed emotions here, but I'd love for Louisville, West Virginia and Cincinnati to come in for basketball and make us a 12-team league," Ford said. "But if we went 12 and went divisions, I wouldn't be a fan of that. I do like 10. I like that the schedule is fair. And I think it will be exciting for fans to see all the teams come through the gym. We'll have a true champion. A guy like me from Kentucky, I'd love to see Louisville. Boy, what a great basketball league you'd have. But we're in a good position now."
Mizzou decision coming later today?
Pivotal Meeting Under Way On Future Of MU, Big 12 - Sports News Story - KMBC Kansas City
According to one person who has been watching the MU conference story very closely, the fact that MU Chancellor Brady Deaton took a few minutes to greet reporters just before the meeting started is a telling sign.He believes Deaton's grip-and-grin session is a small signal the university will have something to say later Friday.
Pivotal Meeting Under Way On Future Of MU, Big 12 - Sports News Story - KMBC Kansas City
According to one person who has been watching the MU conference story very closely, the fact that MU Chancellor Brady Deaton took a few minutes to greet reporters just before the meeting started is a telling sign.He believes Deaton's grip-and-grin session is a small signal the university will have something to say later Friday.
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