COACHING SEARCH: Thanksgiving night update
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Yes, I detest the QB under-the-center triple option offense and a KN hire would disastrous for the following reasons:
1. There is no QB on the current roster or in the existing recruiting pipeline to run it. Lanning has been a Shotgun Spread QB thru HS and at ISU. It would be an absolute waste of his talent for him to play in that offense.
2. The OL for that offense are smaller/quicker OL that cut block for the most part. The returning OL are ill-suited to play in that system. And since cut blocking is illegal in the NFL, good luck trying to recruiting top notch OL who eventually want to play in the NFL. Same deal with WRs (C.Johnson and D.Thomas did not commit to GT while Paul Johnson was HC.) and I would not blame Lazard transferring to a FCS program if KN is hired.
3. Due to #1 and #2, it will take at least 2 or 3 seasons for KN to get the required personnel for that offense. ISU is currently sitting on it's best collection of offensive talent in the past 10 years and it would be a bleepin disaster for the program to squander that talent with KN.
4. KN runs a bleepin phone booth offense. ISU can run the ball effectively out of a Power Shotgun Spread or Shotgun Spread Option which is exactly what they did after the Fat Man left. ISU cannot win with a damn phone booth offense and that includes a pro style under-the-center offense as well but a KN offense is far worse since you can't effectively pass the ball if you're behind.
5. KN has recruited service academy kids for the past 9 years which is far different than recruiting HS and JUCOs in the B12.
KN is the farthest thing from a home run hire for ISU, it would be a damn disaster.
I would bet you never see significant carries from Matt Falcon. He's been hurt numerous times and none of those offers were good. Michigan offered him a medical to go to school there but he wants to try and play.
So if Fleck is such a great recruiter then why is WMU only 6-5 this year? Is he a great recruiter that is not so good at coaching?
Most of his recruits would just be freshmen or sophomores now accounting for redshirts. Still, it would be nice to see more than just one good year on his resume.
Oh no, I'm not really a fan of Ken N's triple option. I think we should do the power spread like Willie Fritz ran at Sam Houston State. I just wanted to point out that a triple option isn't yes run on every down like people think.
Fleck would bounce on ISU quickly. I'm actually surprised that he's shown any interest in the job. When asked about the Illinois job he said that he would rather coach a school like Iowa that had more to offer. He seems like a guy that will end up coaching at USC sometime in the future.
I can't find the original article that has his exact quotes but this one i've linked below talks about how he would prefer a school like Iowa at the bottom of the article.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...ired-greenstein-spt-0829-20150828-column.html
I'm curious why Todd Monken is left off your list. Very successful balanced offense and solid defense this year at USM. Small sample size, sure, but he's proven himself elsewhere. Great football mind. I'd argue as good as Stitt offensively with D1 and big 12 experience to boot.
Maybe. Maybe he couldn't attract great coordinator talent. He did play OSU and MSU in the non-con so I'm not going to hold that against him. Frittz did smoke him and then he lost to two of the best teams in the conference. One of those coaches is a candidate for this job and the other will have a big time job elsewhere. Yeah, it's the MAC but he didn't lose to a bad football team. I'm not saying he's a sure thing but I'm having a tough time finding anything that's more of a sure thing. FWIW, I don't think any of the mentioned guys are staying here very long. Maybe the older guys would but I doubt it. Flecks as weird as anyone so maybe he would hold out a little longer, who knows.
To me, Monken and Fleck aren't all that different in their HC success. Southern has played a much easier schedule this year and even though records are different, I would call this season a wash. Monken is probably a better football mind and Fleck is probably a better recruiter. Give me the recruiter, and here's why:Recruiting isn't just about players, it's about coaches as well and I think he could put together a better staff here than he has now. That's also why Stitt scares me a little.
I don't think Monken is a real serious candidate, either, which is why I left him off. I don't really think Frost is either but he was the one coordinator I threw in because I don't think this search will be made up entirely of HCs. I really think there are only four real candidates right now. Ken N, Fleck, Campbell and Fritz. Obviously more will be interviewed, but I think it will be like a Levell Moton type of deal.
In Fleck's first year at WMU, it sounds like he screwed a bunch of kids who were just getting ready to commit by pulling their offers a few weeks before signing day. In the video, the kid says it happened to all but one or two kids in the original class. It sounds like many high school coaches in central Indiana won't talk to Fleck anymore. Is there anyone in our current group of commits that we don't want to lose?
http://htosports.com/teams/default.asp?u=WCFOOTBALL&s=football&p=newsstory&newsID=41130
(I found the original article on the Indianapolis Star website archive, but I would have had to pay to read the whole thing. So I found another version that was free.)
http://htosports.com/teams/default.asp?u=WCFOOTBALL&s=football&p=newsstory&newsID=41130
(I found the original article on the Indianapolis Star website archive, but I would have had to pay to read the whole thing. So I found another version that was free.)