CGC..

Are people supposed to be excited about a team that hasn't even started their season yet, with a lot of unknowns?

The 'knowns' have been beaten into the ground:
An experienced QB and Oline (sort of vs. injuries last year)
Decent receivers.
A defense with a few decent players and some potential to be better than last year.

Personally I'd like to see where things are after 3 games before any excitement builds up. Otherwise I'd feel like someone from other fanbases that expect big things in August, despite nothing happening in prior years.

Running backs are a huge question mark.
 
Talent alone won't win at Iowa State, but now that that talent has some experience to build on, chemistry together, and actually having the same system again instead of learning a new one every year always being behind the ball. Football is a little more complicated than you think. There's a reason the staff is upbeat this year and they weren't last year.

I know football is complicated. Thats why Im not riding the hype train right now. I find it ironic that you say football is complicated, but buy into everything the coaches say.
 
I know football is complicated. Thats why Im not riding the hype train right now. I find it ironic that you say football is complicated, but buy into everything the coaches say.
Coaches speak is genuine pessimism compared to Rustshack. He would think Ames High junior varsity backups were potential All-Big 12.
 
Are people supposed to be excited about a team that hasn't even started their season yet, with a lot of unknowns?

The 'knowns' have been beaten into the ground:
An experienced QB and Oline (sort of vs. injuries last year)
Decent receivers.
A defense with a few decent players and some potential to be better than last year.

Personally I'd like to see where things are after 3 games before any excitement builds up. Otherwise I'd feel like someone from other fanbases that expect big things in August, despite nothing happening in prior years.

Exactly right. It's August and it's all words right now. Three weeks from today we'll see if experience, an infusion of juco talent and a better "culture" propels this program past an FCS team for the the first time in three years.
 
Exactly right. It's August and it's all words right now. Three weeks from today we'll see if experience, an infusion of juco talent and a better "culture" propels this program past an FCS team for the the first time in three years.

And that same team has taken 3 of the last 4 from our BCS rival to the east.
 
What's funny is people "fell for it" last year when the staff didn't seem encouraged, but they wont when the staff actually does.
Well you know the old saying, "Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
 
Great, I have some down time and I come on CF and what do I get? I get stabbed in the front, the back, and the side.

If I get stabbed in the groin I quit.
 
And that same team has taken 3 of the last 4 from our BCS rival to the east.

Except that doesn't matter (or shouldn't since it wasn't brought up), and that's been about the only accomplishment for ISU since November 18, 2011.
 
And that same team has taken 3 of the last 4 from our BCS rival to the east.

I know beating Iowa means a lot to much of the fan base. I like beating them too. I'm just not obsessed with them. As a proud ISU football fan I have taken a lot more ribbing for losing to FCS two years in a row than for the occasional loss to Iowa. A loss to FCS needs to be a once in blue moon thing. That being said, what means the most to me is getting to the point where ISU wins Big XII games. Winning 4-5 conference games is not insurmountable.
 
What about sidestabbers?

Topstabbers are the silent ones. Can't see them hiding...but they're there.

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Exactly right. It's August and it's all words right now. Three weeks from today we'll see if experience, an infusion of juco talent and a better "culture" propels this program past an FCS team for the the first time in three years.

So much fail in the "logic."

Your negative comments are just words right now. Fact

Last year means nothing. Fact.

This years team is not last years. Fact

"Fans" beating down the Cyclones for games that haven't even been played yet?

Priceless and Hawkesque.
 
I know beating Iowa means a lot to much of the fan base. I like beating them too. I'm just not obsessed with them. As a proud ISU football fan I have taken a lot more ribbing for losing to FCS two years in a row than for the occasional loss to Iowa. A loss to FCS needs to be a once in blue moon thing. That being said, what means the most to me is getting to the point where ISU wins Big XII games. Winning 4-5 conference games is not insurmountable.

I'd rather lose to the hawks every single year and have a winning B12 record. But if we're going to go 0-fer in the B12 I'd take the Iowa win every year.
 

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