Cap City League 6/28

Playing hard in practice and in pickup games definitely transfers over to the actual season with some. Percy definitely plays during the season similar to his 'meaningless' exhibition games in the summer. good at times, listless at others

Michael Jordan was phenomenal because he was one of the most intense, balls-to-the-wall, legendary 'practice' players in NBA history------and it seemed to transfer over to regular season games

I play pickup games at lunchtime. Everyone plays hard and wants to win, even though it's 'meaningless' to everyone else

I don't expect these guys to really go all out all the time in the CCL, but what I would like to see someone like Percy do in this league is to be working on some things he will need to get better at for the season.

For example, maybe he wants to develop his right hand more... so in the CCL he works on some post moves where he goes to his right and uses his right hand more? Or maybe he's working on developing both a left and a right hand baby hook or something.... so work on that in the CCL. Or how about learning how to pass out of the post to the open man? Or work on your rebounding? There's no reason a guy like Percy can't bring down 20 rebs a night in the CCL. Work on boxing out, getting in good position and getting the rebound.

But don't just chuck up 3's all the time, which will get you benched by Fred if you do that in a real game.

Royce White did these kinds of things IMO. He knew he could put up 50 pts a night in the CCL if he really wanted to, so he choose to work on his passing ability in the CCL. He tried more than anything to get assists. And he did. It became one of his greatest strengths.
 
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Stats from ISU men's basketball facebook:

Bubu Palo had a triple-double tonight at the YMCA Cap City League. 40 points, 21 rebounds and 15 assists.
Other stats: Gibson 13 pts. Long 54 pts, 14 rbs. Nader 40 pts. Thomas 37 pts, 14 rbs. Dorsey-Walker 30 pts, 7 rbs. Niang 38 pts, 18 rbs. Ellerman 6 pts. Morris 28 pts. Edozie 11 pts, 10 rbs. Bluford 22 pts. Hogue 34 pts, 18 rbs.
Pretty evident that Bubu is our BEST player.
 
I don't expect these guys to really go all out all the time in the CCL, but what I would like to see someone like Percy do in this league is to be working on some things he will need to get better at for the season.

For example, maybe he wants to develop his right hand more... so in the CCL he works on some post moves where he goes to his right and uses his right hand more? Or maybe he's working on developing both a left and a right hand baby hook or something.... so work on that in the CCL. Or how about learning how to pass out of the post to the open man? Or work on your rebounding? There's no reason a guy like Percy can't bring down 20 rebs a night in the CCL. Work on boxing out, getting in good position and getting the rebound.

But don't just chuck up 3's all the time, which will get you benched by Fred if you do that in a real game.

Royce White did these kinds of things IMO. He knew he could put up 50 pts a night in the CCL if he really wanted to, so he choose to work on his passing ability in the CCL. He tried more than anything to get assists. And he did. It became one of his greatest strengths.

I agree with this. The thing we need to remember about the CCL is that these games are probably the LEAST important thing the players do in regards to basketball during that day. They lift weights, have workouts, etc. So by the time they hit the CCL they could have had a big weight workout, done an individual thing, had part of their 2 hours per week allowed with Fred, and maybe even had a team thing. They could be tired by that time :)

I like it when I see guys working on things though and while it doesn't appear Percy does that a lot, I'm guessing none of know what he wants to work on.
 
I don't expect these guys to really go all out all the time in the CCL, but what I would like to see someone like Percy do in this league is to be working on some things he will need to get better at for the season.

For example, maybe he wants to develop his right hand more... so in the CCL he works on some post moves where he goes to his right and uses his right hand more? Or maybe he's working on developing both a left and a right hand baby hook or something.... so work on that in the CCL. Or how about learning how to pass out of the post to the open man? Or work on your rebounding? There's no reason a guy like Percy can't bring down 20 rebs a night in the CCL. Work on boxing out, getting in good position and getting the rebound.

But don't just chuck up 3's all the time, which will get you benched by Fred if you do that in a real game.

Royce White did these kinds of things IMO. He knew he could put up 50 pts a night in the CCL if he really wanted to, so he choose to work on his passing ability in the CCL. He tried more than anything to get assists. And he did. It became one of his greatest strengths.


Royce was already an excellent passer when he came to Iowa State. He passed a lot because he is a very unselfish player. He played pretty much the same way in the regular season as he did in the CCL.
 
If you look at this team, it seems to be pretty clear that Edozie or Gibson, if not both will have to step up. There has to be some adequate, if not strong backup for both Melvin and Georges. Teams are going to go at them anyway to try and get them into foul trouble. They will go at them even harder if ISU has nothing but weak replacements.
 
Oh and the other thing that is different this year than it has been the past few years.....the players really don't stick around for any other games. They all come in with girls (and they ALL have girls....) a little while before their games and then leave pretty much after them. All other things being equal, I would think that for team chemistry it would be better if they stuck around. But not a big deal at all, just a difference from the transfer era.


I came for the second and third games and saw Tyrus McGee was there til the end (taking shots during breaks).
 
Too be fair, we don't know that he didn't hustle. There is also the chance that he just is unable to score against inferior opponents.


I would like to think that Percy is just playing it safe to avoid further injury to his hand. Of course, I would like to see him do more than stand there and pump threes badly, but as a fan, I'm going to choose to believe that there is much more going on. He is in better shape than last summer, but played harder last summer, so I think he is just making sure that nothing stupid happens in terms of injury.
 
If you look at this team, it seems to be pretty clear that Edozie or Gibson, if not both will have to step up. There has to be some adequate, if not strong backup for both Melvin and Georges. Teams are going to go at them anyway to try and get them into foul trouble. They will go at them even harder if ISU has nothing but weak replacements.

Yeah, this is my biggest concern as well.

Niang was in foul trouble way too much last year. We need him on the floor this year.

I see some posters say things like we don't need Gibson or Edozie because we have Niang and Ejim, but it's not that simple. Teams are going to attack our interior big time and either score at will or get fouled. If Niang is having to foul, we are in trouble.

If for nothing else, we need both Gibson and Edozie to go in there and be enforcers on defense and grab rebounds.... that's it. I don't care if they score a single point at all. Just be an inside presence defensively, and grab some boards. That's it.
 
I would love to see Bubu have a huge season, more than anyone could have ever expected. But, I guess I still have to remember he was an original walk-on for a reason. Anybody been at CCL to see if he's been able to hit the '3' effectively? We all know he can drive and make free throws.
 
If you look at this team, it seems to be pretty clear that Edozie or Gibson, if not both will have to step up. There has to be some adequate, if not strong backup for both Melvin and Georges. .

crap; this sounds concerning. I really hope they produce.
 
OK, first time I've been to Cap City League this year. I only made it for the second and third games.

Niang looks more trim. His outside shot was horrible, but I suspect that is mostly related to weight-lifting and conditioning. His moves underneath when he twists around and lays up a reverse with his left hand are amazingly sweet. Great quickness with the ball near the basket and incredible knack for making the shots.

Dorsey-Walker had a so-so game, but he has really stepped his control of the game. He is a play maker who could do anything he wanted. My favorite moment was when he ripped a rebound away from somebody. His extra weight and strength make a huge difference for him.

Thomas is very disciplined for a kid right out of high school. One thing I noticed is that he is very composed. He didn't get rattled by missing shots or making an occasional mistake. He is also much stronger looking in person, especially his arms. Of course, he has a beautifully sweet spot-up jumper, but he also made nice moves to the basket, including one where he cradled the ball, took a bunch of swipes at it, and still went up strong to make the layup. It was the sort of thing I was looking to see if Dorsey-Walker could do, but nobody seemed to cover him as tough as last year when he made his moves. I love the combo of Dorsey-Walker and Kane making the action happen with Thomas spotting up for shots. There are a lot of points right there.

The star of the second game was Hawley from Drake. He was making tough shots from all over the court and really seemed to know how to be in the right place at the right time to finish plays initiated by others.

Palo was typical Bubu in CCL. He was able to drive and make plays at will. At one point near the end of the game, he got pulled to the bench and obviously wanted to get back in the game because the score was close. Like to see that fire to win. He went back in after a minute or so.

Gibson as noted was not trying that hard. On offense, he mostly stood outside and threw up 3s. On defense, he mostly took up space. He looks like his body is in good shape (I remember him being heavier last summer). I think he is just protecting his hand and not playing in a way that might injure it. As someone else posted, what happens all day outside of CCL is probably most important for someone like Percy.

Babineaux from Drake was a subtle force for Palo and Gibson's team. He scored something like 20 points on 6 dribbles. He has really long arms and would just get the ball underneath and make shots.

Naz Long was on fire offensively during his game. I didn't see the defensive fire that was constantly present with him last year, but he could fill up the basket. And he is a coach on the court. He is always scanning the court, giving ideas to others, and "helping" the refs. I also saw visions of McGee on many of his 3s where he catches the ball, jumps high, and releases quickly.

Abdel Nader was a delight to watch. The guys seems to really enjoy himself out there. He has very good size and strength, but I was very surprised to see how quick he was and how smooth his outside shot is. He is also pretty tough on defense with really wide shoulders.

Well, for what it is worth, those are my thoughts after seeing my first two CCL games this year.
 
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I like hearing info about Nader. Anyone more info on him? Anybody?

OK, first time I've been to Cap City League this year. I only made it for the second and third games.

Niang looks more trim. His outside shot was horrible, but I suspect that is mostly related to weight-lifting and conditioning. His moves underneath when he twists around and lays up a reverse with his left hand are amazingly sweet. Great quickness with the ball near the basket and incredible knack for making the shots.

Dorsey-Walker had a so-so game, but he has really stepped his control of the game. He is a play maker who could do anything he wanted. My favorite moment was when he ripped a rebound away from somebody. His extra weight and strength make a huge difference for him.

Thomas is very disciplined for a kid right out of high school. One thing I noticed is that he is very composed. He didn't get rattled by missing shots or making an occasional mistake. He is also much stronger looking in person, especially his arms. Of course, he has a beautifully sweet spot-up jumper, but he also made nice moves to the basket, including one where he cradled the ball, took a bunch of swipes at it, and still went up strong to make the layup. It was the sort of thing I was looking to see if Dorsey-Walker could do, but nobody seemed to cover him as tough as last year when he made his moves. I love the combo of Dorsey-Walker and Kane making the action happen with Thomas spotting up for shots. There are a lot of points right there.

The star of the second game was Hawley from Drake. He was making tough shots from all over the court and really seemed to know how to be in the right place at the right time to finish plays initiated by others.

Palo was typical Bubu in CCL. He was able to drive and make plays at will. At one point near the end of the game, he got pulled to the bench and obviously wanted to get back in the game because the score was close. Like to see that fire to win. He went back in after a minute or so.

Gibson as noted was not trying that hard. On offense, he mostly stood outside and threw up 3s. On defense, he mostly took up space. He looks like his body is in good shape (I remember him being heavier last summer). I think he is just protecting his hand and not playing in a way that might injure it. As someone else posted, what happens all day outside of CCL is probably most important for someone like Percy.

Babineaux from Drake was a subtle force for Palo and Gibson's team. He scored something like 20 points on 6 dribbles. He has really long arms and would just get the ball underneath and make shots.

Naz Long was on fire offensively during his game. I didn't see the defensive fire that was constantly present with him last year, but he could fill up the basket. And he is a coach on the court. He is always scanning the court, giving ideas to others, and "helping" the refs. I also saw visions of McGee on many of his 3s where he catches the ball, jumps high, and releases quickly.

Abdel Nader was a delight to watch. The guys seems to really enjoy himself out there. He has very good size and strength, but I was very surprised to see how quick he was and how smooth his outside shot is. He is also pretty tough on defense with really wide shoulders.

Well, for what it is worth, those are my thoughts after seeing my first two CCL games this year.
 
I would love to see Bubu have a huge season, more than anyone could have ever expected. But, I guess I still have to remember he was an original walk-on for a reason. Anybody been at CCL to see if he's been able to hit the '3' effectively? We all know he can drive and make free throws.

Yes, he hits the 3 effectively. He only took 5 threes last year. Here's the thing you all forget about Bubu. The last 2 years he came into the conference season late. Two years ago he broke his wrist early in the year and last year he had the legal issues. Last year he was even banned from official team activities, so he was never in practice or anything. I suspect that by the time he was back on the team, he had enough problems just focusing on getting used to playing in games and with the players. If he ever gets a whole season, he will be a fine shooter.
 
Well if there's one thing we know, it looks as if there will sure be competition in practice for playing time in the 1,2, and 3 postions. Bubu and Naz, for example, are not going to just lay back. SDW and Thomas have not had to experience defending Big12 players yet, either. Hard to know yet if Bluford will gain enough practice, game experience, or be able to play Big12 defense, to see if he's 'on' or 'not on' with his gunner 3-pt shooting. Would assume this competition will make for good practices, whereas Babb, Lucious,and Clyburn were 'givens' every game out. Rather have the experienced players day in and day out, but hey, fighting for playing time in practice never hurt anyone, right?
 
I assume that Percy only stayed because he didn't want to hustle all the way to the door.
There are a good amount of steps to walk up so of course he stayed. His hover round was yet to be brought to floor level.

On a serious note though I stayed for about 10 minutes in the last game and I know Percy only scored 13 but he had a few really nice post up moves which is always nice to see.
 
I'm telling you Bubu will be a force this year. That was a crazy triple double.

I love Bubu but hey doesn't have physical abilities to be a force and the D-1 level. He will always be a scrappy player and he won't be getting more than 10-15 mpg this year.
 

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