BYU and the Big 12
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If Nebraska never gets back to being a top 5 or top ten program I agree with you. I don't really think they've earned their #9 starting spot this season. I think if I were an Iowa fan and compared '09 seasons and returning starters, I'd be pretty pi$$ed they were ranked in front of me for no apparent reason.
Obviously Neb and CU are two of the worst BCS basketball programs and you're talking about replacing them with very good to great programs with those other three.
I'd take one of them to fill out the conference, I guess I just don't know enough about them to get excited like BYU.
Adding the New Mexico markets would be great, but they are terrible. New Mexico is better than New Mexico State, but has not won a conference title in over 40 years. NM has been to 5 bowl game this decade, but they are bad bowls. Plus, their stadium only holds 39,000 people.
Louisville or Cincy would be the best 12th team.
Agree and the only scenario where that happens is if Notre Dame and another school are added. But this doesn't seem to register with the majority of posters in this thread or other threads discussing conference realignment. Maybe they suck at math.
Or perhaps you underestimate the revenues generated by the Big 12 title game and the staying power of the conference without 12 teams. I mean, the Big 10 and Pac 10 didn't both expand to 12 teams for nothing - and it's not as if Utah and Colorado are "plum" picks for the Pac 10...
It helps that ISU has been involved with same schools for over 100 years too.
Like others have said, any team that is added needs to be a good fit for the Big 12 and increase the conference revenue. BYU would do that and fits the B12 culture/model. New Mexico, not so much.
I agree with that. None of us know the numbers, but I really think that BYU would bring more dollars than they would take. They are a better athletic program than Utah in almost every regard AND better academically. The only reason why Utah got picked for the Pac-10 is the religion issue, which the Big 12 obviously does not have a problem with (Baylor). What the conference needs right now is stability and I think that adding BYU and going to 11 brings a little bit of that. As for travel, we're talking, what, an extra hour on a plane at most vs CU?
What difference in "staying power" is there between 10 and 12 teams if the two extra teams don't add value for the ten existing teams?
And the B12 presidents and ADs crunched the numbers on the B12 title game. It clearly wasn't worth it to add two teams if one of them wasn't Notre Dame. Otherwise, they would have replaced NU and CU with BYU and someone else right away.
And, yes, the P10 did add two teams for nothing. They royally hosed up by accepting Colorado before Texas officially said yes. The only reason they took in Colorado early was to prevent TX legislators from forcing them to take Baylor. When Texas said no, they were stuck with Colorado and then had to invite Utah. They would have been better off staying at 10 schools instead of adding those two and the existing 10 schools are now ******.
Or, these things take time to explore and the conference will explore all options to determine if there is a school that merits an invite. Up until it finds that a school is valid option, the official word will be that the big 12 is staying at 10. If the big 12 is actively searching, it does it no good to make a ton of noise that it is attempting to do so.
The possibility for some of the olympic sports for some schools to bus instead of fly, thus saving more money for these schools.
I would love to stay at 10 teams and be able to tell Texas HS recruits that they will play in Texas 2 times every year. But I think the super conferences will happen in the future and this summer was just a start. If they happen and the Big 12 has 10 teams they are done. Actually the Big 12 needs to be the leader in expansion to keep from being plucked. BYU would be a great get and don't count out Arkansas. Where there is smoke, there's fire. Arkansas hasn't been in the national spotlight since joining the SEC. They need to be able to recruit Texas and their only chance of doing that is by joining the Big 12. If we get those 2 we could make a serious play for ND in the future when it looks like the super conferences will start happening.
