Bowie suspended
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I should have rephrased my post, or at least elaborated. I am fine with him sitting players that don't follow his system, but that is 5 players in 2 years. It just seems to me, that if it is happening continuously, and not much being changed because of it, it may be the system in place. Maybe a serious sit down at the beginning of their time at ISU, to talk them through exactly what is expected of them, and if they don't abide by the rules you are subject to sit 'x' amount of games. I am completely fine with the idea of sitting kids down who don't fit into the culture he is trying to build, but it has happened more than my liking. I probably jumped the gun on implying it was Prohms fault, but I think there is either some disconnect between what is expected and what is thought to be expected, or we aren't bringing in the right guys that fit our system.
This isn't something detrimental to the team, one game suspensions, but isn't a look I want to continue.
I don't really have an issue with them going out to be themselves once in a while, but it's really not that hard to just not get in trouble for something stupid.
Rumors on here with Carter was that it was drug related - college kids do drugs, which is pretty normal. Drugs are against team rules so he got suspended for doing drugs, pretty normal.
Holden - iffy playing time does not = suspended and we have yet to see how this story completely plays out.
Bowie - not sure on the details right now.
Burton - that dude is up and down with everything isn't he?
I guess I see a bunch of "normal college basketball player stuff" here and nothing like you are suggesting.
Prohm standing up to McKat last year was probably the best thing for him. I hope that's the case for some of these guys as well.
Or maybe we have an inordinate amount of players who are self-absorbed and/or bristle under rules or authority?
Fred gets a lot of credit for "working with" troubled players, but maybe he just acquiesced to them to keep the peace? For instance, instead of giving an ultimatum to BDJ to behave and respect his neighbors, Fred moved him to another apartment. That's taking care of the issue!
The anti-Prohm people don't even need arguments that make sense apparently.
Who's to say that doesn't happen when they first get to Iowa State? It wouldn't be the first time a college student did something like that.
To be safe you should probably open a bottle of wine as well.
Holden- clearly I stated that he "sat the bench or was suspended", never stated which one. There was obviously and issue there. Burton has had his up's and down's with coach this is well known.
I see you are pointing out a fictitious suspension and random rumor that holds zero weight. That's pretty neat!
Well shoot. My friend & I were just looking at the schedule last week to get it on our calendars. Pooh! Learn anything interesting?
Can Prohm suspend himself for not living up to program standards?
We're not trending in the right direction that's for sure.
totally could be the case, just hadn't heard any indication of that, so I am assuming(yes, I know what they say). And I totally get that happening once or twice in the first year, but these seem like minimal offenses (not like the KU situation or anything) and they continue to happen. A player like Simeon Carter, being in the system for 2 years now, and Darrell Bowie, brought on to be a veteran presence with cbb experience, shouldn't be in these situations if something like that takes place. Or they aren't a good fit, personality-wise, for the culture Prohm is trying to build. That is all I was trying to say
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It's been well documented that Burton and Prohm have a great relationship this year.
It seems what gives ISU the best chance to win is a combo of Holden/Bowie/Young contributing.
3 of those havent contributed at a high level. The up and down of Burton is all on Burton.
As for Young, that rumor was stupid and unsubstantiated.
That's like saying Steele Jantz not turning the ball over gave ISU the best chance to win
