Kirk Ferentz getting sued for being racist

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What are you talking about? If former players think Brian is the problem, there needs to be an investigation, or someone needs to come forth with stories as to why they think that is the case (as they have done with other coaches, namely Doyle). You can’t just fire a coach because a couple players make vague, conclusory statements that he is a problem. That’s not how any of this works.

"a couple players"
 
So that’s it - Jaleel Johnson says that Brian is the problem, and that proves that Brian is responsible for most of the “disgusting stuff” going on at Iowa, and he needs to be fired? Is that your stance? Can we get an investigation? Can we get players to come forward sharing their stories about Brian’s misconduct, like they have for other coaches? Or are we supposed to just take their statements at face value and fire him?
Nah there is most definitely a process in all of this. All players that have come forward have stated Doyle is the main problem. A lot of those players also stated Brian was the problem. A few of those players said Kirk Ferentz deserves blame as well. You can't fire any of these coaches without first investigating. My main point was that there is indeed a lot more to what Brian did than those two incidents we both mentioned, especially if other people were saying he was a problem.
 
So you linked to a post from some random poster on an Iowa State website? Was this in Wadley’s mom’s video? If so, I’d take it with a grain of salt.
It was from her video, but the words were from Akrum Wadley's mouth.

Just want clarification from you that both Sharonda Phelps AND Akrum Wadley are no longer credible in your eyes.
 
It was from her video, but the words were from Akrum Wadley's mouth.

Just want clarification from you that both Sharonda Phelps AND Akrum Wadley are no longer credible in your eyes.
Anybody that does something wrong in their life is no longer credible in some Hawkeye fan's eyes. Funny thing is that most of their coaching staff would not be credible in their eyes if their actions in the past were actually punished.
 
Wasn't he the player where they said a back injury retired him? I remember being berated because I said it was weird. Turns out I was right because the injury was ********.

I received a lot of guff about that too. Iowa should have NEVER helped Miller tailor that message.
 
You would think that he was within a year or two of retiring irrespective of these issues, so I would not be shocked if he walked away. But I would guess more likely that KKKirk will retire at season's end.

Doubt this will be anything more than, "I did not realize that there were issues, but I am committed to working with the players, the staff, and the University to make sure Iowa Football is inclusive and respectful of all races, etc, etc, etc. Consider me woke"

Edit* And if this press conference is simply a "I will do better" moment, I agree with Jones that having a few players there as props is pathetic.

I will be shocked if Iowa doesn't draw this thing out just to give Kirk one last year and let him go out on "his terms". Plus this would but them time to perform a coach search.
 
Three kids saying they haven't experienced any of the issues claimed by the others clearly negates those that have spoken out. All will be forgotten.

It seems a wee bit early to be outraged at this without knowing exactly what the circumstances are with the players being there. Maybe it's current players, maybe it's former players. Maybe they went to KF and asked to be a part of it so they could be heard. Maybe they're going to speak for the committee being led by Daniels. If it turns out that they're there just to praise all things Kirk then yes, that would be incredibly lame and worthy of the outrage. Right now, I don't think anybody knows so claiming KF is using them as props is premature.
 
@Brodie0 of course there should be an investigation. But not an investigation lead by U of I. All they're investigating right now is how to retain as many coaches as cheaply as possible and keep everyone quiet. That's their MO. They need a third party to come in - one from outside the state of Iowa and no connections to the university - and cooperate with the investigation. The results need to be made public. If I were Barta, I'd suspend Doyle, BF and Kirk (and other accused coaches) from interacting with players. They can do a lot of coaching - practice film review, working through other coaches, etc. - without being on the field. OR have an objective observer like from HR or something shadow each of these guys anytime they are with athletes until the investigation is over.
 
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It seems a wee bit early to be outraged at this without knowing exactly what the circumstances are with the players being there. Maybe it's current players, maybe it's former players. Maybe they went to KF and asked to be a part of it so they could be heard. Maybe they're going to speak for the committee being led by Daniels. If it turns out that they're there just to praise all things Kirk then yes, that would be incredibly lame and worthy of the outrage. Right now, I don't think anybody knows so claiming KF is using them as props is premature.
Let me rage please.
 
come on, man. Kirk is about as good of a person as there is in the meathead world of college football.

Checking in again with dognuts or any of the other Hawk posters to see what their thoughts are on Kirk's actions in the Satterfield and Everson case, or if, like Art Briles, since he was not officially charged with any crimes he didn't do anything wrong.
 
Ask George Kittle's dad.
Imagine trying to discredit his opinion on the matter. A captain for the Iowa Football team in the 80's, law degree from Iowa, son was unreal at Iowa not long ago and is the best TE in the NFL.
 
That's why @Brodie0 , @johnnydugouts , @TrianglePlace won't go near that one. They're very selective as to who they discredit.
Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information that confirms or support one's prior personal beliefs or values. It is an important type of cognitive bias that has a significant effect on the proper functioning of society by distorting evidence-based decision-making.
 
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