Wigginton

[madguy30]

This team has a lot of good players and as a whole, a lot of problems. We are what we are and it’s not going to change. Let’s just hope we are good enough to start a nice winning streak.

It can change. Whether it does or not is a question.

 

[Die4Cy]

While some of you guys think you are dunking on other CF posters here, this is what it looks like to everybody else:

 

[Die4Cy]

I remember when a young Melvin Ejim traveled or lost the basketball on what seemed to be half of his possessions as a freshman in Big 12 play.

He wound up Big 12 Player of the Year as a senior.

These guys are developing players, but I'll take my lumps with them.

 

[sheepplucker]

I remember when a young Melvin Ejim traveled or lost the basketball on what seemed to be half of his possessions as a freshman in Big 12 play.

He wound up Big 12 Player of the Year as a senior.

These guys are developing players, but I'll take my lumps with them.

I don’t remember him being a big part of the offense until his senior year. He picked his spots rebounded like a mad man and got put backs. And was considered a glue guy this team is glueless

 

[FinalFourCy]

I remember when a young Melvin Ejim traveled or lost the basketball on what seemed to be half of his possessions as a freshman in Big 12 play.

He wound up Big 12 Player of the Year as a senior.

These guys are developing players, but I'll take my lumps with them.

I’m sure the G-League is excited to hear that.

That’s an awful comparison. Melvin was a wallflower on a team that went 2-9 in close games and 16-16 overall, and was nearly replaced the next year. Wigginton is more akin to DG that year- a high volume guy that won’t be around past this season.

 

[sheepplucker]

I’m sure the G-League is excited to hear that.

That’s an awful comparison. Melvin was a wallflower on a team that went 2-9 in close games and 16-16 overall, and was nearly replaced the next year. Wigginton is more akin to DG that year- a high volume guy that won’t be around past this season.

THT put up the same amount of shots in just 19 min you wanna talk about high volume... Babb put up the same amount as Wigginton Shayok put up one more and Jacobson one less idk where people are trying to go with this.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

Defense?
Seems to me you have a plan based upon history. But, when it’s not working you need to adjust. Not sure we are good at doing that. I suppose you are playing the percentages, but in game adjustments are necessary.

Not a Prohm-era problem exclusively. Seems it has plagued ISU teams dating back as far as McDermott

 

[IASTATE07]

THT put up the same amount of shots in just 19 min you wanna talk about high volume... Babb put up the same amount as Wigginton Shayok put up one more and Jacobson one less idk where people are trying to go with this.

I don't know what this says.

 

[rochclone]

Prohm has them playing way too slow. This isn't a half court team. They don't have a low post scoring presence. They need to be running and pushing tempo. This is the slowest temp they have had since 2009. It is also why I think some of ISU's kenpom numbers are inflated. It tends to be more favorable to slower teams and while he has adjusted to counteract that over the years, I believe it still does to some extent.

We are #219 in adjusted tempo but Prohm will tell us that we need to get our shots in transition. A bit baffling.

 

[rochclone]

Nick plays defense. Nick's offense has been MUCH better than Wigginton's this year. Nick is suffering from the dumb fan "doesn't sweat enough" problem. Weiler-Babb isn't doing anything that Prohm doesn't want him to do.

I agree. Nick is a very solid basketball player. I think we do a disservice to him by making him create a shot out of nothing other than a high ball screen with seven seconds left on the shot clock. Hopefully that gets figured out.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

That may have happened against Baylor, but we defended very well against K State.

Much better 2nd half. Until bad breakdowns in the final couple minutes with both Conditt and LW getting beat off the dribble

 

[Thompsonclone]

We all know Wigginton’s defense on the last play was terrible and one of the reasons why we lost.

I didn’t read the game thread so maybe it has been mentioned already but another costly defensive mistake in the game was Babb and Jacobson switching (when it didn’t need to be done) which led to Jacobson on Brown under 20 seconds left. Jacobson puts Brown on the line and he makes both. Maybe we get the win if Babb just stays on Brown and we get a stop.

 

[flycy]

Two horrible shots at the end the last two games.

One of those wasn't horrible, it just didn't fall. That will happen to the best shooters, even, around 60% of the time. It annoys me that at the end of games we only seem to want to shoot 3 pointers when higher percentage shot could preserve the win.

 

[ProhmDate]

We all know Wigginton’s defense on the last play was terrible and one of the reasons why we lost.

I didn’t read the game thread so maybe it has been mentioned already but another costly defensive mistake in the game was Babb and Jacobson switching (when it didn’t need to be done) which led to Jacobson on Brown under 20 seconds left. Jacobson puts Brown on the line and he makes both. Maybe we get the win if Babb just stays on Brown and we get a stop.

You are correct about Wigginton's defense on the last play being poor, but to suggest that a single failure in a 40 minute game is the reason for the loss just about as myopic and uninformed as it gets in this or any other game!

 

[Thompsonclone]

You are correct about Wigginton's defense on the last play being poor, but to suggest that a single failure in a 40 minute game is the reason for the loss just about as myopic and uninformed as it gets in this or any other game!

I said “one of the reasons.”

 

[ProhmDate]

This. I love Nick, and he brings so much to the game, but his body language sometimes just isn't conducive to the game. Drives me nuts when he brings the ball up so slowly, dribbles at the top of the key forever, and then has to create something when the shot clock runs down.

I mean, it was pretty obvious Saturday that up-tempo, attacking basketball was what got us into the lead. Let the defense set up? Why? Run at them, make them get out of what they are comfortable with. NWB just didn't want that, he walked the ball up almost every time.

I agree with one aspect of your comment. That being the body language exibited during parts of the KS game. The bottom line is that a winner looks at adversity the way a lion looks at lunch! That was definately not the look we saw on Nick's face during parts of the game.

 

[CySmurf]

I'm not giving up on him, but I am sick of people acting like he should be starting and playing 35 minutes. Honestly, his poor play was a major reason we lost today. Way more than some bad coaching. He just continually drove in there and fell down and missed shots. He rarely looks for his teammates. And I'm not convinced he is not a cancer in the locker room.

You are such a tool.
You can judge him all you want based on his play that you are seeing. But on what basis or proof do you have to call him a cancer in the locker room? The only cancer I see is you trolling on this site when things are down. Go find another avenue to vent your bile. Holy **** man.

 

[FinalFourCy]

I didn’t read the game thread so maybe it has been mentioned already but another costly defensive mistake in the game was Babb and Jacobson switching (when it didn’t need to be done) which led to Jacobson on Brown under 20 seconds left. Jacobson puts Brown on the line and he makes both. Maybe we get the win if Babb just stays on Brown and we get a stop.

That was as directed, and Weber exploited it. A far less egregious mistake than playing matador, lazy on-ball defense.

 

[Thompsonclone]

That was as directed, and Weber exploited it. A far less egregious mistake than playing matador, lazy on-ball defense.

Since when is switching a 5 onto one of the best guards in the Big 12 directed? Both were costly mistakes. I don’t question you but I question that decision if it’s what Prohm wants. You should only switch 1-4 with how our lineup is constructed. Jacobson is never going to win the matchup against a guard.

 

[dirtyninety]

A lot of outrage on this thread, bro's and sis's. I mean, we're all upset that our image amongst French state journalists is diminished, but can't we just all get along? There comes a time when we heed a certain call.....
When the world must come together as one.
The secret to happiness is low expectations. We will be singing, when we're winning! That NIT home game victory and a big swirl cone will make you smile! Stop the Hate.