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*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
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I'd say for Miami and GT the main thing to think about is recruiting. Neither are probably big TV draws as the have bigger programs in state. Adding Miami would give you another Florida school. Georgia Tech would put you in Georgia which I remember reading the state of Georgia produces the most NFL talent. IMO, you go with Miami. Then you are the only conference with multiple schools in 2 of the 3 largest Division 1 player producing states.
Here's an example of a possible B12 with 16 teams:
* Primary protected rival: Play every year, rotating home-and-home.
* Secondary protected rival: Play 2 out of 3 years, rotating home-and-home.
* 8 Conference games per year; 4 OOC games per year.
* Divisions change every year.
Year 1:
Pod 1 & Pod 2 = Division A
Pod 3 & Pod 4 = Division B
Year 2:
Pod 1 & Pod 3 = Division A
Pod 2 & Pod 4 = Division B
Year 3:
Pod 1 & Pod 4 = Division A
Pod 2 & Pod 3 = Division B
Year 4: Cycle repeats (reverse home-and-home)
Northeast Pod 1:
Notre Dame (Texas; Georgia Tech)
Rutgers (Kansas State; Oklahoma State)
West Virginia (Iowa State; Clemson)
Maryland (Florida State; Texas Tech)
Southeast Pod 2:
Florida State (Maryland; Texas)
Clemson (Texas Tech; West Virginia)
Georgia Tech (Oklahoma; Notre Dame)
Baylor (Texas Christian; Kansas)
Northwest Pod 3:
Iowa State (West Virginia; Texas Christian)
Kansas (Oklahoma State; Baylor)
Kansas State (Rutgers; Oklahoma)
Texas Tech (Clemson; Maryland)
Southwest Pod 4:
Texas (Notre Dame; Florida State)
Oklahoma (Georgia Tech; Kansas State)
Oklahoma State (Kansas; Rutgers)
Texas Christian (Baylor; Iowa State)
Currently, ND and GT seem very doubtful, with FSU and Maryland unlikely. Clemson may or may not have reasonable interest, along with Louisville, Rutgers, and BYU.
At any rate, a main point is to demonstrate the flexibility and cohesion of a 16-team league, creatively configured.
This particular B12 configuration would likely command at least $35M per school per year, possibly more, plus Tier 3 on top of that. Doesn't ISU make $2M+ in Tier 3 revenue per year?
This league is also ripe for an "SEC challenge" week, if the two leagues had any interest in that.
* Primary protected rival: Play every year, rotating home-and-home.
* Secondary protected rival: Play 2 out of 3 years, rotating home-and-home.
* 8 Conference games per year; 4 OOC games per year.
* Divisions change every year.
Year 1:
Pod 1 & Pod 2 = Division A
Pod 3 & Pod 4 = Division B
Year 2:
Pod 1 & Pod 3 = Division A
Pod 2 & Pod 4 = Division B
Year 3:
Pod 1 & Pod 4 = Division A
Pod 2 & Pod 3 = Division B
Year 4: Cycle repeats (reverse home-and-home)
Northeast Pod 1:
Notre Dame (Texas; Georgia Tech)
Rutgers (Kansas State; Oklahoma State)
West Virginia (Iowa State; Clemson)
Maryland (Florida State; Texas Tech)
Southeast Pod 2:
Florida State (Maryland; Texas)
Clemson (Texas Tech; West Virginia)
Georgia Tech (Oklahoma; Notre Dame)
Baylor (Texas Christian; Kansas)
Northwest Pod 3:
Iowa State (West Virginia; Texas Christian)
Kansas (Oklahoma State; Baylor)
Kansas State (Rutgers; Oklahoma)
Texas Tech (Clemson; Maryland)
Southwest Pod 4:
Texas (Notre Dame; Florida State)
Oklahoma (Georgia Tech; Kansas State)
Oklahoma State (Kansas; Rutgers)
Texas Christian (Baylor; Iowa State)
Currently, ND and GT seem very doubtful, with FSU and Maryland unlikely. Clemson may or may not have reasonable interest, along with Louisville, Rutgers, and BYU.
At any rate, a main point is to demonstrate the flexibility and cohesion of a 16-team league, creatively configured.
This particular B12 configuration would likely command at least $35M per school per year, possibly more, plus Tier 3 on top of that. Doesn't ISU make $2M+ in Tier 3 revenue per year?
This league is also ripe for an "SEC challenge" week, if the two leagues had any interest in that.
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Big East played with only 7 a few years when VA Tech, BC and Miami left. FSU and Clemson are hands down first choice........and yes their competition is lacking in conference.
For Big XII recruiting junkies, check this out. **Warning Tejas paper**
Big 12 recruiting analysis: Who filled needs, who didn't, whose classes shine brightest?
For Big XII recruiting junkies, check this out. **Warning Tejas paper**
Big 12 recruiting analysis: Who filled needs, who didn't, whose classes shine brightest?
Seeing how this thing pops up every couple of days, figured I would help feed it and get it to 20K so we can put it away.
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Nothing to say here.
Wouldn't the Primary and Secondary have to be from different pods? For example, when FSU's pod is playing OU/UT pod, they'd only have 7 conference games.
Also, would the conference championship be a four team or a two team playoff?
Also, would the conference championship be a four team or a two team playoff?
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You have rotating divisions, so one could expect the championship to be the lead dogs from each of the two pod cpmbination you happen to be grouped with each year. Way better system than the old North and South, imo. Everyone gets spread around the conference over a three year period.
Secondary rivals could not be from same pod as primary rival. I agree. OP probably just missed on that, mathematically it should work out.
You guys are correct. Primary and secondary rivals must be from different pods. My bad.
I switched a few around, and now all the teams "fit" (I think). Of course, there are numerous potential permutations -- the above is only one example.
The championship game must be 2-team under current rules. If the rules change, then you're set up for 4-teams.
While Clemson, FSU, and Maryland may have "some" interest in the B12, it appears that GT has zero interest as of this update, and, of course, ND is probably a pipe-dream.
I switched a few around, and now all the teams "fit" (I think). Of course, there are numerous potential permutations -- the above is only one example.
The championship game must be 2-team under current rules. If the rules change, then you're set up for 4-teams.
While Clemson, FSU, and Maryland may have "some" interest in the B12, it appears that GT has zero interest as of this update, and, of course, ND is probably a pipe-dream.
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There, closer to 20k.
There, closer to 20k.
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I know we're trying to get this thing to 20k, but really--a post for each link?
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