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ISUAgronomist said:
Clemson = Land Grant institution. Sign 'em up!

Just spent a week in SC for a conference. Nice state.
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DistrictCyclone said:
I've never met a group of people with more pride in their state than South Carolinians.
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ISUAgronomist said:
That's for sure and it's in a good way not arrogant like some other states (Texas). I chatted it up with locals any chance I could. I was very impressed with their knowledge of their own state and history. I would visit there again for sure.
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Hell yes, then I can drive 2 hours and see the clones play. South Carolina is nothing like Texas arrogance thats for sure. Although when you leave Columbia, Myrtle Beach, Charleston, Greenville/Spartanburg, or Hilton Head its pretty poverty stricken.
 
cyhiphopp said:
Actually, I might switch up the following:

Clemson
FSU
Georgia Tech
UT
TCU
Tech
Baylor

ISU
KU
KSU
OU
OSU
WVU
Louisville


Then it woudl be a North/South Split, it would keep all of the Texas teams together to travel, and every team would have a protected Rival (OU/UT...). Then you would play your 6 conference mates, 1 protected rival, and then rotate 2 other teams from the other division every 2 years.
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That does look pretty good. Can you be our commissioner?
 
I would take Clemson into the Big 1X in a heartbeat. Spent a summer nearly 12 years ago with a bunch of Clemson students. Great, great people. Very similar to ISU fans.
 
cyhiphopp said:
Actually, I might switch up the following:

Clemson
FSU
Georgia Tech
UT
TCU
Tech
Baylor

ISU
KU
KSU
OU
OSU
WVU
Louisville


Then it woudl be a North/South Split, it would keep all of the Texas teams together to travel, and every team would have a protected Rival (OU/UT...). Then you would play your 6 conference mates, 1 protected rival, and then rotate 2 other teams from the other division every 2 years.
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Problem is that would be horrible for ISU recruiting. We need teams from Texas and/or Florida in our division, IMO. If you swapped WVU and Louisville with Tech and Texas and called it East/West, then I think you are on to something. Maybe substitute Maryland, Virginia Tech or Miami for Louisville as well if we are thinking big.
 
Who knows how many legs there are to the Clemson/FSU rumors, but as we have seen....the internet is a powerful thing and if folks keep talking about it then it can become a self fulfilling prophecy (especially if the fanbase has a vocal portion that is for the move).

Moral of the story...spread the word! Clemson/FSU to B12!!
 
isuno1fan said:
Who knows how many legs there are to the Clemson/FSU rumors, but as we have seen....the internet is a powerful thing and if folks keep talking about it then it can become a self fulfilling prophecy (especially if the fanbase has a vocal portion that is for the move).

Moral of the story...spread the word! Clemson/FSU to B12!!
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I heard it is a done deal. No link. It I'm sure it's real.
 
But once WVU is officially settled into its new league, there’s still some questions as to what the landscape of the conference will look like – the league is expected to look at the possibility at further expansion or decide to stay at 10 teams for the time being. For Luck, the decision is clear to him.

“Being a conference with only 10 puts you really behind the eight-ball. I would think that there is some strength in numbers and that it would be wise, not necessarily immediately, but over a course of a number of years to get to 12 and maybe even beyond that,†he said. “You have to see what your competition is doing, what your neighbors are doing and see that you don’t miss out on creating a stable conference.â€

Something he says the Big East failed to do after Virginia Tech, Miami and Boston College all left for the ACC.

“The Big East replaced those schools, but we still stayed at eight and I think that was a mistake because it’s not a number that really gives you enough cushion quite honestly – and I would say the same about 10 in today’s world of college athletics,†he said.

Luck was a guest Tuesday evening on the MetroNews Statewide Sportsline.


Luck Says He's Committed To WVU - West Virginia University Sports News, Scores and Coverage from WVMETRONEWS.COM

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I'd invite Louisville,Clemson,FSU, and toss a coin on 14 Miami or Georgia Tech

East

ISU
KSU
Louisville
FSU
WVU
Clemson
Miami/ G.Tech

West

OU
Texas
OSU
Tech
Kansas
Baylor
TCU
 
Pretty crazy this thread has so little mention of Navy officially joining the Big East when the Big East changes still affect WVU/Big 12 and possibly Louisville in the future. (unless I missed it)

As far as I know here is the Big East as of today:

8 current all sports schools:
Rutgers
UConn
Louisville
Cinci
USF
Pitt (leaving in 2014)
Cuse (leaving in 2014)
WVU (likely leaving in 2012, definitely leaving by 2014)

5 football schools joining in 2012:
BSU (Fb only)
SDSU (Fb only)
SMU - full
UCF - full
Houston - full

Football schools joining in 2015:
Navy (Fb only)

So their battle to keep WVU doesn't even affect their championship game desire? They have 12 this year without WVU.
 
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HFCS said:
Pretty crazy this thread has so little mention of Navy officially joining the Big East when the Big East changes still affect WVU/Big 12 and possibly Louisville in the future. (unless I missed it)

As far as I know here is the Big East as of today:

8 current all sports schools:
Rutgers
UConn
Louisville
Cinci
USF
Pitt (leaving in 2014)
Cuse (leaving in 2014)
WVU (likely leaving in 2012, definitely leaving by 2014)

5 football schools joining in 2012:
BSU (Fb only)
SDSU (Fb only)
SMU - full
UCF - full
Houston - full

Football schools joining in 2015:
Navy (Fb only)

So their battle to keep WVU doesn't even affect their championship game hopes? They have 12 this year without WVU, and would have 12 again soon even if Louisville were to leave and others stay?
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None of those teams are set to join the BE in 2012. They are planned for 2013. If they can't convince any of them otherwise and WVU leaves as planned, the BE will only have 7 teams next year.
 
isuno1fan said:
None of those teams are set to join the BE in 2012. They are planned for 2013. If they can't convince any of them otherwise and WVU leaves as planned, the BE will only have 7 teams next year.
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Does that mean they won't be able to have a conference championship game.





Do I really have to?
 
isuno1fan said:
None of those teams are set to join the BE in 2012. They are planned for 2013. If they can't convince any of them otherwise and WVU leaves as planned, the BE will only have 7 teams next year.
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So this is accurate now:
8 current all sports schools:
Rutgers
UConn
Louisville
Cinci
USF
Pitt (leaving in 2014)
Cuse (leaving in 2014)
WVU (likely leaving in 2012, definitely leaving by 2014)

5 football schools joining in 2013:
BSU (Fb only)
SDSU (Fb only)
SMU - full
UCF - full
Houston - full

Football schools joining in 2015:
Navy (Fb only)

So in the Big East legal dream scenario where nobody ever leaves until scheduled they have 8 teams in 2012, 13 teams in 2013 and 11 teams in 2015.
 
snowcraig2.0 said:
Why not Georgia Tech?
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GTech doesn't draw 80K to their games and doesn't have the community of interest that FSU and Clemson both have. While GTech is situated in the Atlanta market, both FSU and Clemson draw better TV ratings even if GTech is good.

Since the other major FL and SC in-state schools are in the SEC, both FSU and Clemson don't have political obstacles to move from the ACC to the B12.

While there is some logic for FSU and Clemson to move to the B12, the reasons given in the linked article are hilarious and don't have much merit. The author is basically blaming Clemson's blowout loss to WVU on the quality of ACC competition.
 
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