*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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Is the Big 12 seriously going to stop at 10 teams? Why don't we jut take Louisville and Cincinnati. If we are looking for a great academic institution, go after Rice. Just get the Big 12 back to 12 actual teams!

Pretty stupid to take a 20% cut in revenue per team per year until Tier 1 negotiations take place.

Big 12 will stay at 10 teams for now and go to 12 teams when the new Tier 1 deal starts.
 
Tier 1 contract negotiations = 12 teams. No movement before then IMO.
Yep. For the mid and lower tier teams in the Big 12, they will be making more money then they probably ever did in the last 15 years. For the big dogs, they are taking a small hit in TV money coming in. To add more teams right now, the big schools would make even less and the small dogs would be making what they were before if not just a little more. Money wise is just isn't really feasible and keeping everyone happy.

If the Big 12 still was on their old model of more exposure more money instead of going to equal revenue sharing, they probably would add 2 more schools.

Once that contract starts negotiations, teams will be added. Hopefully we only look East though.
 
I'm disappointed. I saw you were the last one who posted in the thread and was hoping for another trollface gif.

Gotcha :wink:


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From the article it says Missouri could be stuck in the Big 12 until WVU can join.

University Of Missouri Joins The SEC | Fox News

2.5 more years of Mizzoulander? Probably.

Also saw this was interesting...

Asked what division Missouri would be in, Arkansas Athletic Director Jeff Long posted on his Twitter account that Missouri will be in the "East initially."


I guess that kind of confirms that its likely the SEC will just bid its time until it can convince a couple ACC schools to join up to get to 16.
 
If it's really all about money, the wins/losses will be a secondary concern. Getting your game on as many TV's as possible so ESPN/NBC/etc. will fork over big dough will be the only thing that matters...unless TV revenue becomes "winner take all".

The networks would still be shelling out cash as long as the programs have large fan bases in areas with lots of TV sets, regardless of how crappy the team is. Fan support is pretty inelastic with respect to a teams' win/loss record. Case in point: Notre Dame. They've been tepid for decades now and NBC is still willing to fork over a hefty sum to air their games.
Personally, I do not see someone from Jacksonville watching a Mizzou game unless Florida is playing in it. ZOU is the new SEC outsider. As far as aTm, jars will be jars and they fit the mentality better.
 
USA Today Weighs In On Conference Realignment With Its Own Super Division Model - SB Nation Kansas City

Here is what USA Today's super-division structure would look like:
ACC
Central Florida, Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, Maryland, North Carolina, North Carolina State, South Florida, Vanderbilt, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest
Big East
Army, Boston College, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, Navy, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, Temple, West Virginia
Big Ten
Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Purdue, Wisconsin
Great Midwest
Air Force, Boise State, Brigham Young, Colorado, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Utah
Pac-10
Arizona, Arizona State, California, Oregon, Oregon State, Southern California, Stanford, UCLA, Washington, Washington State
Southeastern
Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida State, Kentucky, Miami, Florida, Mississippi, Mississippi State, LSU, South Carolina, Tennessee
Southwest
Arkansas, Baylor, Houston, SMU, Missouri, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, TCU, Tulsa
 
The 2011 College Football Playoff: What If BCS Haters Actually Got Their Way? - SBNation.com

2011 Four-Team Playoff With Conference Title Requirement: No. 1 LSU vs No. 5 Boise State; No. 2 Oklahoma State vs No. 4 Stanford
2011 Six-Team Playoff: No. 1 LSU vs No. 4 Stanford/No. 5 Boise State; No. 2 Oklahoma State vs No. 3 Alabama/No. 6 Oklahoma
2011 Eight-Team Playoff: No. 1 LSU vs No. 8 Arkansas; No. 4 Stanford vs No. 5 Boise State; No. 3 Alabama vs No. 6 Oklahoma; No. 2 Oklahoma State vs No. 7 Oregon
2011 "Hinton Special" Ten-Team Playoff: No. 1 LSU (SEC champion) vs No. 6 Oklahoma (at-large)/No. 7 Oregon (at-large); No. 4 Stanford (Pac-12 champion) vs No. 9 Clemson (ACC champion); No. 3 Alabama (at-large) vs No. 12 Penn State (Big Ten); No. 2 Oklahoma State (Big 12 champion) vs No. 5 Boise State (at-large)/No. 23 Cincinnati (Big East champion).
2011 16-Team "Perfect Playoff": No. 16 Nevada (WAC) at No. 1 LSU (SEC); No. 9 Clemson (ACC) at No. 8 Arkansas (at-large); No. 12 Penn State (Big Ten) at No. 5 Boise State (MWC); No. 23 Cincinnati (Big East) at No. 4 Stanford (Pac-12); No. 11 Houston (CUSA) at No. 6 Oklahoma (at-large); Northern Illinois (MAC) at No. 3 Alabama (at-large); No. 10 Virginia Tech (at-large) at No. 7 Oregon (at-large); Arkansas State (Sun Belt) at No. 2 Oklahoma State (Big 12).
 

Here is what USA Today's super-division structure would look like:
ACC
Central Florida, Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, Maryland, North Carolina, North Carolina State, South Florida, Vanderbilt, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest
Big East
Army, Boston College, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, Navy, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, Temple, West Virginia
Big Ten
Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Purdue, Wisconsin
Great Midwest
Air Force, Boise State, Brigham Young, Colorado, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Utah
Pac-10
Arizona, Arizona State, California, Oregon, Oregon State, Southern California, Stanford, UCLA, Washington, Washington State
Southeastern
Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida State, Kentucky, Miami, Florida, Mississippi, Mississippi State, LSU, South Carolina, Tennessee
Southwest
Arkansas, Baylor, Houston, SMU, Missouri, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, TCU, Tulsa

I'd love to see a Hawkeye reaction to this. I bet it be this...

1. First they'd be super upset to be split up from the Big 10 rivals
2. Next they'd say, "oh well, we'll just win this dumb conference every year to prove we're the best thing since sliced bread."
3. After 5-6 seasons of play they'd average about a 5th place finish every year behind, Oklahoma, Nebraska, BYU, and Okie St.

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I don't know why people/media keep putting out their own rational opinions on conference realignment. Anything fair or rational has gone out the window forever if there is no commish to regulate college football. Who would've thought Texas-Texas A&M would be in separate conferences or South Florida and Boise St would be in the same conference?

As much as proposals like this try to make sense out of all this, people need to understand its all about ego, power, and greed, and the people with the most of it will never give any of it up unless forced to.
 

Hey, SBNation ... Couldn't we at least wait until the season plays out before fantasy-heads start filling in playoff brackets? For Pete's sake, we don't know if Stanford or Okie State or even LSU is going to win out. These "playoff bracket" fantasies are just pie-in-the-sky wishlists. Sheesh. You might as well say, Hey, a playoff would have Notre Dame and USC in the championship, cause I like them da best! And ND's new helmets are da bomb, yo! :jimlad:
 
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