*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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And the SEC has apparently been discussing 9 game conference schedules.

This is from Wednesday, Nov 9

In 14-team SEC, 8 conference games may not be enough and 9 could complicate matters - The Washington Post

SEC spokesman Charles Bloom said the conference will play eight games in 2012 and a nine-game slate “hasn’t been discussed.â€￾

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Athletic directors would prefer to keep an eight-game schedule, according to a person familiar with early discussions among those in charge.

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While most coaches and administrators say they want to stay with an eight-game schedule, extra conference games could generate more revenue and be more attractive to television partners.

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If the rivalries are protected — and that appears to the priority — and the schedule stays in a similar format with just one rotating interdivisional opponent, it could mean Texas A&M would visit the other six SEC East stadiums once every 12 years.
 
There's no assurance that 12 teams = 8 game schedule.

Agree.

If ND becomes a B12 FB member with Louisville (Plan A), there will likely be 8 conference games to accommodate ND's nonconference scheduling requirements.

Look for a 9 game schedule if they expand to 12 schools w/o ND.
 
I am hearing form family in Oklahoma that Notre Dame is going to the big 12.

So basically that means it is a fact!
 
Exactly. I think people on here have faulty assumptions that 12 team league = 8 conference games.

Pac 12 = 9 conf. games
Big 10 = 9 conf. games in 2017
ACC = going to 9 conf games
Big East will almost assuredly go to 9 conference games to squeeze out as much TV revenue as possible to remain competitive revenue wise with other BCS conferences

The only conference that says they're not going to 9 conference games is the SEC with 14 teams. They'll have 6 division games, 1 protected rivalry, and will play each of the remaining 6 teams at home once every 12 years.


I'd be really interested to see how much revenue difference there would be in going to 12 with Louisville and BYU as opposed to going to 12 with our 2 lost schools of A&M/Mizzou. I agree with Nienas that if you're going to expand that it has to be quality, but how much quality difference is there in someone like Louisville vs. someone like Illinois (just to throw a name out there).

If all the other major conferences go to nine games it's not as big of a deal for the Big 12 to do it. What you would see then, is 4-5 more MAC/CUSA/WAC/MWC/SunBelt teams in bowls every season than you do now.

Right now this season, the 9 game schedule is effectively saying "Please give us less bowl games even though we're the #1 conference by a mile in every computer ranking".

That's insane.

FWIW regarding Louisville, besides being a geographic fit, a recently expanded football stadium and a marquee basketball name, they have a larger athletic department budget than Missouri.
 
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If all the other major conferences go to nine games it's not as big of a deal for the Big 12 to do it. What you would see then, is 4-5 more MAC/CUSA/WAC/MWC/SunBelt teams in bowls every season than you do now.

An unintended consequence of all the big conferences going to nine games could be the loss of some non-BCS programs. That is around 70 less payout games available for MAC/CUSA/WAC/MWC/SunBelt teams that depend on the check from being sacrificial lambs a few times a season to fund their programs. With 9 confrence games most schools will have one FCS tune-up, one game against a BCS school from another conference, and just one paycheck game with a non-BCS school rather than the two they have now.
 
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If all the other major conferences go to nine games it's not as big of a deal for the Big 12 to do it. What you would see then, is 4-5 more MAC/CUSA/WAC/MWC/SunBelt teams in bowls every season than you do now.

Which is why at some point, with everyone going to 9 games, you might have to see the postseason eligibility criteria revised. 6-6 is a pretty arbitrary number that tells you nothing about how good a team is. 6-6 in the b12 or SEC is a much better team than 6-6 in the big 10, PAC, or other conferences.
 
An unintended consequence of all the big conferences going to nine games could be the loss of some non-BCS programs. That is around 70 less payout games available for MAC/CUSA/WAC/MWC/SunBelt teams that depend on the check from being sacrificial lambs a few times a season to fund their programs. With 9 confrence games most schools will have one FCS tune-up, one game against a BCS school from another conference, and just one paycheck game with a non-BCS school rather than the two they have now.

Actually, I think you're going to see a lot fewer intra-BCS conference games as a result of this. A lot of schools are going to need the three sacrificial lambs to even have a shot at making a bowl game (or improving their stock) and thus can't risk the loss to a higher quality opponent. The Cy-Hawk Game could become a rarity in college football, if we don't see the termination of it altogether.
 
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Is everyone as excited as me about getting to 20,000? Is that why this thread is still around?
 
Which is why at some point, with everyone going to 9 games, you might have to see the postseason eligibility criteria revised. 6-6 is a pretty arbitrary number that tells you nothing about how good a team is. 6-6 in the b12 or SEC is a much better team than 6-6 in the big 10, PAC, or other conferences.

We can only hope. I'd favor selecting teams based on an expanded BCS ranking vs an arbitrary number of wins.

The computer 1/3 would make up for the radical differences in schedule strength. Missouri and A&M are teams that could hang with almost anybody on a given week, they just played a grind of a schedule. Missouri has played 7 teams in the Sagarin top 30.
 
Actually, I think you're going to see a lot fewer intra-BCS conference games as a result of this. A lot of schools are going to need the three sacrificial lambs to even have a shot at making a bowl game (or improving their stock) and thus can't risk the loss to a higher quality opponent. The Cy-Hawk Game could become a rarity in college football, if we don't see the termination of it altogether.

I think if Iowa and ISU are both playing 9 conference games, and 6 wins is still the post season bar, both programs would favor some kind of 2, 3 or 4 year rotation, but not ending it altogether.

Is there any real reason the series couldn't become regularly scheduled, but not every year?
 
I think if Iowa and ISU are both playing 9 conference games, and 6 wins is still the post season bar, both programs would favor some kind of 2, 3 or 4 year rotation, but not ending it altogether.

Is there any real reason the series couldn't become regularly scheduled, but not every year?

I would be in favor of a change to something like this. Maybe a 2 on, 2 off situation or an Ames, off, IC, off, rotation.
 
I think a team should be able to win three games in conference to go bowling. Is that asking too much?
 
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