Lay off Pollard

I do think fans should can it on the Chizik thing as far as putting blame on Pollard. Everyone loved the hire, looked great.

No one anticipated...

- Gene would make poor assistant coach decisions (although I think this should be part of the interview)
- Gene wouldn't be able to manage games
- Gene was selling us a bowl full of lies wanting to be here
- Gene would be so crass with the players and not be able to consistently motivate

I can't fault Jamie for offering an extension simply because you want to support your HC...and we all knew the transition was going to be tough. Need to have support (aka, years in contract) behind a coach for recruiting. It was either extend him or make a change, IMO.
That is a good, well-thought-out, post. The hire did look good at first glance and actually it might have worked out in the long run (with a bunch of new assistants). I was hoping that Chizik would fall flat on his face at Auburn, but it didn't happen. Quite possibly he is a good CEO type that needs great assistants to do the actual coaching. He screwed up by hiring the assistants that he did at ISU.
 
Who has he extended other than Fennelly? Did Chizik get one?

Greg Mcdermott got 3 years worth of extensions, including a year for Jiri driving the wrong car. The fact that Mcdermott got an automatic extension because Jiri sat out 6 non-conference games shows that the contract extension clauses in GMs contract were not written competently.

He gave Chizik an extension after starting 5-19 while he was on a 10 game losing streak (thank you Auburn and CPR for saving that mistake).

He also gave Mccarney a nice contract extension months before he fired him.
 
Yes. After his 2nd year.

But if he's referring to Greg getting extended, he better check his facts - as that was contractual.

The AD obviously had a hand in the contract Greg received. Any automatic extension that is based on Jiri missing 6 non-conference games for driving the wrong car is a clear example of incompetence.
 
I guess we ISU should give back that basketball practice facility. It didn't help much anyway.


You bring up an interesting point....

1st of all I do NOT blame Jamie Pollard for McDermott's lack of success...It just did NOT work out!

2nd Jamie got a basketball facility built so that gmac could recruit and RETAIN better players than what Wayne Morgan had recruited...GMac just couldNOT- canNOT recruit big 12 caliber players to Ames!!

3rd The fans have to let Jamie Pollard hire the next coach because thats Jamie's freaking job!

4th In my opinion the absolute worst thing that Jamie Pollard could do right now is ...simply do nothing and let gmac come back next year, because if Jamie loses the fan base they're not coming back to Hilton for a long long time...


The heat is on and its time for Jamie to respond with a new plan and a new coach for basketball success at ISU!!!

 
The AD obviously had a hand in the contract Greg received. Any automatic extension that is based on Jiri missing 6 non-conference games for driving the wrong car is a clear example of incompetence.

Exactly. Greg had a SIX year contract, which is plenty of stability for a new coach.

To negotiate an additional clause that permitted automatic extensions of one year EACH for any minor violation at a buyout rate of $500k per year is beyond stupid. Any argument that is was a good contract is laughable. Wake up. Look where it got us, 4 years into a nine year contract and a massive buyout hanging over us. The sheer reality of our current predicament is testimony to the stupidity of the contract.
 
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Fear of the next guy possibly not doing any better is not a reason to sit idly and accept this current poor product - and pay for it.

I agree but that's not what I meant. I mean I have zero confidence in Pollard hiring the right guy, so we'll be left in the same situation just 2.5 million poorer.

It's a fine line but I think it's valid.
 
No one anticipated...

- Gene would make poor assistant coach decisions (although I think this should be part of the interview)

This, IMO, was Gene's biggest misstep and it absolutely should have been discussed in the interview. If our option was Gene Chizik and his fishin' buddies only IMO that was a huge red flag. There were plenty of people on here including myself that were really, really wary about that.
 
as long as people support losing and embrace being the doormat in the important sports things will not change. If you people are happy and support and cherish losing, than there is no doubt you why you love Pollard.
 
For sure, but I'm not sure some the fans / JP supports do; he seems to be getting a pass from a lot of folks.


So wait, you cant support him and be dissapointed with some choices? Its not a clear cut line. I wouldnt group folks. Whether you like like it or not, you dont have any say in Jamie's fate. He has done alot of good and some things that folks dont agree with. Its the nature of the job and by bet is almost every AD that has ever existed has followed the same path.
 
This, IMO, was Gene's biggest misstep and it absolutely should have been discussed in the interview. If our option was Gene Chizik and his fishin' buddies only IMO that was a huge red flag. There were plenty of people on here including myself that were really, really wary about that.

Bryce - I'm just wondering, I agree with what you said, but just for speculation, in your opinion, if Gene had better assistants what would that have changed?
Besides a few more wins, Would Gene decide to stay here longer because the program was on better foundation?
 
So wait, you cant support him and be dissapointed with some choices? Its not a clear cut line. I wouldnt group folks. Whether you like like it or not, you dont have any say in Jamie's fate. He has done alot of good and some things that folks dont agree with. Its the nature of the job and by bet is almost every AD that has ever existed has followed the same path.

I don't fault him for his decisions on hires; I fault him for the ones he fired.
 
You Pollard haters sure like to load up on some revised history and Monday morning quarterbacking.

First off, the Chizik deal. That was a huge hire when he made it. The national media was in shock that we could pull in a hire on that level. The fanbase was thrilled. He had a major rebuild to deal with when he got here. If you don't remember, Mac left the shelves pretty bare, and we were just a couple plays away from coming off of a 0-12 season the year before. GC had made some shakeups with his staff and nobody can say for sure that he wouldn't have made a bowl this season if he had stayed. He is now the head coach at an SEC power and was playing in a January bowl game. He may not have been the perfect hire, but he was far from bad.

Now for McD. If you don't remember, Morgan's last year wasn't all that great. We failed to reach the post season despite the fact that we had 2 potential NBA guys in the guard court. People on this board whined on and on about the "street ball" style of play. We didn't D up, we didn't rebound well, and it looked like the players were running the team. McD seemed like the perfect hire to address that. A guy who would bring in strong fundamentals and a team first style of play. A guy that had proven himself as a head coach, and a native Iowan who would view this as a destination job. He was also being connected to the Iowa and KSU jobs, we weren't the only ones interested, and we got the job done. Yes, the contract was bad, but given the instability in the program, we needed something to get a quality candidate on board.

Cael. Once again, this was another very popular decision at the time. We wanted to get him locked up so that we didn't repeat the disaster that was the Gable scenario. You know, the one that basically has made us a perennial number 2 to Iowa for that last 2 decades? He made a bold move and got the job done. Cael bolted for reasons that nobody on this board knows, but it looks like Jackson was still a great hire to replace him. I don't see any faults of Pollard here.

On top of all this, he locked up BF for the long term, and has managed to keep the volleyball staff here despite bigger fish like UCLA trying to pull them away. This fall we ranked the highest we ever have in the President's cup, a great indication for the health of our programs on the whole.

He has also grown the budget, achieved record football ticket sales during some very down years, renovated JTS, built a bball facility, and it looks like they are serious about trying to get something done on the end zone. All this while being the smallest budget school in our league, as well as being number 2 for in state.

It is easy to look back at some of these things now and say oops, but if you can honestly say that you thought most of them were wrong at the time, you are kidding yourself (or you are MontyBurns).
 
Bryce - I'm just wondering, I agree with what you said, but just for speculation, in your opinion, if Gene had better assistants what would that have changed?
Besides a few more wins, Would Gene decide to stay here longer because the program was on better foundation?

We all know the answer to that. Hell to the no.
 
No he wouldn't have stayed any longer. However we might have won a few more games because of better coaching. The Bolt as defensive coordinator experiment was an unquantifiable disaster.
 
I like Pollard but I honestly don't trust him to make hirinig decisions. That and the money thing is one of the big reasons I'm against making a move.

Really?!?!?! Two words- Paul. Rhoads. I like Pollard. The only one of all our sports in a bad position right now is men's basketball.

Paul Rhoads, Kristi Johnson, and Kevin Jackson (I would rather have Jackson than Cael- more energy) were GREAT hires. Give JP credit for these three. McD not so much, but I think a majority of us were happy with McD when he was hired. As for the ones hired before JP arrived, why even bring them into the conversation as long as they are having success. Doesn't matter if JP didn't hire them.
 
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