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CyFan61

CyFan61

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Posted in Big 12 because of the effect on Big 12 bowl berths.

Right now the smart money on the four at-large BCS bids is on Alabama, (SEC for sure), Houston (if they win the C-USA championship game, they're in), and Stanford (at #6 right now, they're basically a lock) - which leaves one at-large spot for the taking.

That last spot is probably going to come down to Big 12 (OSU/OU/KSU) and Big 10 (Michigan). I don't think Michigan is deserving, but you can't argue against their fan base and the fact that they are a sexier pick than Kansas State, for example.

So, the Big 12 is greatly helped by either...

1) Notre Dame beating Stanford, which would probably knock the Pac-12 out of getting two bids, and definitely knock them below the Big 12, or

2) Ohio State beating Michigan, which would certainly knock the Big 10 out of getting two bids

Either of these two outcomes would be excellent news for the Big 12 and Iowa State. Of course if we finish 8-4 we may knock the Big 12 out of getting two BCS bids by ourselves. But if ISU loses along the way at least getting two into the BCS would definitely help our bowl position. Holiday Bowl becomes a much more viable option.

Go Irish and Go Buckeyes! (And, go Cyclones of course!)
 
CyForPresident said:
If Notre Dame wins, they'll probably make a BCS game.
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I don't see them jumping from #22 to #14 in the BCS rankings with a win although I suppose it is possible. Let's just stick with an Ohio State win then and not have to worry about it :yes:
 
Go Jayhawks too! Probably the biggest reach but it'll be fun. I want to jump Mizzou and see them thrown under the bus as they run away
 
CyFan61 said:
Posted in Big 12 because of the effect on Big 12 bowl berths.

Right now the smart money on the four at-large BCS bids is on Alabama, (SEC for sure), Houston (if they win the C-USA championship game, they're in), and Stanford (at #6 right now, they're basically a lock) - which leaves one at-large spot for the taking.

That last spot is probably going to come down to Big 12 (OSU/OU/KSU) and Big 10 (Michigan). I don't think Michigan is deserving, but you can't argue against their fan base and the fact that they are a sexier pick than Kansas State, for example.

So, the Big 12 is greatly helped by either...

1) Notre Dame beating Stanford, which would probably knock the Pac-12 out of getting two bids, and definitely knock them below the Big 12, or

2) Ohio State beating Michigan, which would certainly knock the Big 10 out of getting two bids

Either of these two outcomes would be excellent news for the Big 12 and Iowa State. Of course if we finish 8-4 we may knock the Big 12 out of getting two BCS bids by ourselves. But if ISU loses along the way at least getting two into the BCS would definitely help our bowl position. Holiday Bowl becomes a much more viable option.

Go Irish and Go Buckeyes! (And, go Cyclones of course!)
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If the Big 10 gets two bids as is would be a joke.
 
I usually root against:
Nebraska, Auburn, Ohio State, and Notre Dame. This has been a weird week.
 
Cyched said:
Where is aTm going to end up now that they're 6-6, and does that affect us at all?
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This is how I hope things go down semi-realistically, if ISU has to finish 6-6.

Fiesta or Nat'l Championship: Oklahoma State 11-1
Some BCS bowl: Kansas State 10-2
Cotton: Oklahoma 9-3
Alamo: Texas 8-4
Insight: Baylor 8-4
Holiday: Iowa State 6-6
Meineke Car Care: Texas A&M 6-6
Pinstripe: Missouri 6-6 (go KU!)

If Tech and UT both beat Baylor and they finish 7-5, we could hop them as well. Better root for the 'Horns against BU anyway since we will not get picked ahead of Texas regardless. Also I'm pulling for KU to give the Holiday Bowl no reason to pick Mizzou over us. Hopefully the conference protects us and the SEC'ers get picked last as it should be.

Best case scenario could be Insight Bowl again. Holiday is a very good option though that has a decent shot.

If we do beat OU and/or KSU, it may not make a difference, because even though we would knock the Big 12 down to just one BCS team, we'd also probably pass Baylor on the pecking order, and so we'd end up in the Holiday Bowl anyway. Baylor could get sent to New York at 8-4 or even 9-3 and Misery would find their own at-large bid in a non-affiliated bowl. It helps to travel well, and it helps even more that Baylor has no fans to travel for them. I would rather not have to worry about that, especially if BU is 9-3... never know what's going to happen. 2 Big 12 teams in the BCS would solve all of these issues.
 
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Cyched said:
But the Big 10 is the most prestigious conference! College football at it's finest. C'mon man!



:jimlad: - in case some don't get it
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Let's be totally honest though...it's not like the Big 12 has a BETTER case for 2 BCS invites. Either you get a 3-loss OU team, or an OSU team on a 2-game losing streak, or a KSU team who's best win was against Baylor, 2 months ago. Yuck.

The 2 teams-per-conference limit is one of the worst features of the BCS. It screwed Missouri in 2007, and it will screw either Arkansas (only losses to LSU and Alabama) or Georgia (has won 9 straight) this year. Both of those teams are more deserving than anybody else from the Big 10, Big 12, or Pac-12 this year.
 
CyFan61 said:
This is how I hope things go down semi-realistically, if ISU has to finish 6-6.

Fiesta or Nat'l Championship: Oklahoma State 11-1
Some BCS bowl: Kansas State 10-2
Cotton: Oklahoma 9-3
Alamo: Texas 8-4
Insight: Baylor 8-4
Holiday: Iowa State 6-6
Meineke Car Care: Texas A&M 6-6
Pinstripe: Missouri 6-6

If Tech and UT both beat Baylor and they finish 7-5, we could hop them as well. Better root for the 'Horns against BU anyway since we will not get picked ahead of Texas regardless. Also I'm pulling for KU to give the Holiday Bowl no reason to pick Mizzou over us. Hopefully the conference protects us and the SEC'ers get picked last as it should be.

Best case scenario could be Insight Bowl again. Holiday is a very good option though that has a decent shot.

If we do beat OU and/or KSU, it may not make a difference, because even though we would knock the Big 12 down to just one BCS team, we'd also probably pass Baylor on the pecking order, and so we'd end up in the Holiday Bowl anyway. Baylor could get sent to New York at 8-4 or even 9-3 and Misery would find their own at-large bid in a non-affiliated bowl. It helps to travel well, and it helps even more that Baylor has no fans to travel for them.
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I do believe this is what will happen and is the best realistic scenario for I-State.
 
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