The 9 members of the BOR will have access to the same information/evidence when they review the case. I believe that 4 or 5 board members are lawyers by training. I can't wait to see the outcome of that appeal.
Bubu Appealing
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The 9 members of the BOR will have access to the same information/evidence when they review the case. I believe that 4 or 5 board members are lawyers by training. I can't wait to see the outcome of that appeal.
This only matters to the fans. I'm sure some of the guys on the team would like to have him back for our third NCAA trip this year but they sure aren't going to lose sleep waiting on this decision. IF (big IF) the appeal is granted and the decision overturned, I really don't see Fred messing with the team chemistry to just be a 'nice' guy and let Bubu play out his last semester.
I think the Amardi situation showed that Fred wants the best team on the floor, and he went to get Kane to make it happen. Bubu was only the first choice out of necessity...not preference. Would he have been a good role player off the bench? Probably - no reason to think otherwise. But this situation most likely will have little impact on this years' team. The Bubu has left the building, and nobody (other than his friends and family and certain fans) really cares. Sorry to be so crass, but that's how I see it.
I think the Amardi situation showed that Fred wants the best team on the floor, and he went to get Kane to make it happen. Bubu was only the first choice out of necessity...not preference. Would he have been a good role player off the bench? Probably - no reason to think otherwise. But this situation most likely will have little impact on this years' team. The Bubu has left the building, and nobody (other than his friends and family and certain fans) really cares. Sorry to be so crass, but that's how I see it.
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It did not take long for Fred to get him back in games when he was cleared last year. Chemistry was fine.
Not to mention that without him ISU wouldn't have won the OU game and the OSU game wouldn't have come down to the last shot. But other than that he is terrible and obviously couldn't have an impact on this season.
I have to side with CyDude here. And I do think that the decision here affects fundraising - some for the better, some for the worse. Some donors/sponsors may like that we are a "whatever gets the W" school, but I do know that there are a good many who donate because ISU doesn't allow Pierre Pierces and such. (Well, usually.) Whether that's good or bad, this is all a giant media cluster****, and donors hear about all of that.
So I can count you as one of the fans who want Bubu reinstated. Who will sit so he can play then? Which one of our top-100 recruits or experienced and proven transfers would you replace with Bubu? Because I don't see it. Especially if we are talking that he won't be back until conference play starts (BOR meeting in late December is likely when they'd rule).
If he played on an experienced quality team last year, he'd play on a less experienced team this year. They are top 100 but they are freshmen. Not that they can't get playing time as well and may be a big surprise, but we don't return a single guard that has played anything close to significant minutes in an ISU uniform.
I would love for Bubu to be reinstated as it certainly doesn't hurt the team or their chances for this year. I don't know the facts of the case though so who am I to judge whether he deserves to play or not. If he can play, he will play, I know that for fact.
The Judicial Affairs Office in the Dean of students Office is the one prosecuting the students when they don't behave. To be fair to students however they use an independent arbitrator (outside ISU )to supervise the hearing. The decision made by this arbitrator can however be appealed to the President if they don't like it. Any student who have appeared before this office for misconduct can confirm this.
It's too bad nobody knows what really went on other than the the one's involved. If indeed it was truly consensual and and not any different than any other college kids being college kids he deserves to be part of the team. We know that she has not told the truth but I haven't heard much about Bubu except being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Sad for him either way.
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Something I've been wondering is was there ever a length of time given for Bubu's suspension? He's a senior so a one year suspension and complete removal from the team has the same effect. It just seems like an unusual penalty to not kick somebody out of school but not allow them to play varsity sports forever. I haven't been the biggest Bubu supporter with his legal troubles, but the whole thing has been handled very strangely and dragged on an incredibly long period.
Please go ahead and illustrate where I'm wrong with facts. I'll be waiting patiently.
I get that you're all butthurt that he was ever let go, and find it impossible that perhaps he made some bad decisions at all. That's great. But it doesn't mean you're right.
The Office of Judicial affairs has the option to use an independent arbitrator/judge when the matter is confidential(protecting accuser identity). This cannot be guaranteed when they used a university committee to review this case. Without breaking any student privacy law the OJA can tell us at least if the hearing was headed by the university committee or an independent arbitrator.