Now, does anyone have minutes from the meeting where they cleared Bubu? Wonder if the vote was close?
Bubu Appealing
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Now, does anyone have minutes from the meeting where they cleared Bubu? Wonder if the vote was close?
Don't argue with Angie. If you have a good point and say anything that might go against what she is saying she will ban you for a month. Especially when it comes to the Bubu situation.
How about not inflaming the mods for no real reason? Bubu was a ******* and he ended up in a poor situation because of it. It isn't like this whole thing is a witchhunt out to get him.
how about the mods doing their jobs and moderating instead of using their status as a mod to back their own arguments? Janny and Angie are the worst with this.
It's actually sorta funny, Linden, since I've never banned anyone for anyone close to that reason.
And the post to which I was responded actually had no point at all, let alone a good one. But if Nallen wants to think that, it's cool. I don't honestly give a crap about the Bubu situation at this point - but saying that there is zero potential for it to affect fundraising is silly. Also implying that the only function of the University president is fundraising is also silly. I'm not implying that he's higher than the BOR, but he definitely is necessary - um, Spanier was sort of integral to the whole Sandusky debacle, and it's silly to think that any university president isn't thinking of that whole situation when he/she makes decisions that could affect the safety of the student population on any level. I think any president wanting to cover his own *** is going to err on the side of caution for the next few years, rather than to be in a similar situation. It's common sense.
That's flat-out never happened, but you are free to report instances where it has. I don't use my mod status to fight stupidity; I have logic for that. If I am in a debate and someone is going over the line, I report it and let other mods weigh in/deal with it who are not emotionally invested.
If I were to "use my mod status" to back an argument, I'd just point out that you're both questioning moderation actions (which is against site rules) and bringing the thread off-topic, then close it. But I don't need to do that.
Well, this took an unexpected turn. No real suspense on who will win and who will lose, but it's fun to watch nonetheless.
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I only raised the issue of moderating because the poster I quoted brought bans/moderation into the discussion. Moderation has nothing to do with this thread, unless this devolves into personal attacks.
And I know you didn't mention me by name, but feel free to cite where I have used mod status to back my own arguments. If anything, I avoid certain discussions because I am a mod here.
Without commenting on whether or not Bubu made a poor decision, if Leath is considering donor's opinions when deciding whether or not to suspend Bubu's basketball eligibility I think that is beyond deplorable. You don't throw a kid under the bus due to unproven allegations involving a person who was proven to fabricate evidence just because a couple boosters might get mad. If Leath did such a thing, he needs to be shown the door regardless of whether or not Bubu did anything against student code. That would be an abuse of power and absolutely should face review from the Board.
My guess (and this is just wild speculation, no facts or anything of the sort) is that it's much more an issue of liability on absolutely any level, even if nothing happened. How many children were hurt by Sandusky with Spanier at the reins covering it up and letting it happen? And he got sacked (rightfully). Even with all indications being that Bubu didn't do anything illegal (although he was in a bad situation), my guess would be that Leath wants to protect his back and the university's back. What if Palo somehow WAS guilty, you know? That mentality screws Bubu, if it's the case, but I am guessing he's probably looking at it from self-protection mode for the university.
I just got off the phone with Iowa board of regents general counsel Thomas Evans. He said no student appeals will be heard this week.
This I cannot do because I do not know what happened. Where you and I differ is that you have already determined what happened (in your own mind), in addition to all of the potential consequences.
I do not have the facts, thus I cannot make any judgment. I do know that Fred Hoiberg will take him back on the team if he wins the appeal. Otherwise he wouldn't be doing this. I fear your vengeful wrath if that day were to come to fruition.
This isn't good news at all. The next board of regents meeting is December 4th. So if Bubu won the appeal and was back on the team, he wouldn't be ready to play until conference play at the earliest.
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CycloneErik
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From a basketball standpoint, I don't care how this goes. The team is good to go either way.
For Bubu's sake, assuming all this was in the clear (and since the accuser has credibility issues, I assume it is), he needs to have his record cleared of this thing. He needs a life free from the stain of all this.
For Bubu's sake, assuming all this was in the clear (and since the accuser has credibility issues, I assume it is), he needs to have his record cleared of this thing. He needs a life free from the stain of all this.
Please illustrate where I did any of that in the post you quoted - which was, at the time, my only post in this thread. I said that anything that brings publicity to the university could absolutely affect fundraising (and I made sure to note that one couldn't predict which way this would affect it, if it did).
Again - I don't care what happens here. I don't think Bubu is going to make a huge impact, regardless. I do, however, think that the President is relevant to this decision. Should he make it himself? No. But he's relevant.
Perhaps this has been discussed before, but are the actions of the Judicial Affairs panel as well as the President's decision subject to an open records request?