Just saw this on the ol' Tweeter feed and thought I'd share for those of you lucky enough to be going. No schadenfreude on my part at all even though I'm not going. Just info for those that ARE going so your prepared for it... yep. 
***Big 12 Preseeds (Mon.)/Brackets (Wed.)***
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Just saw this on the ol' Tweeter feed and thought I'd share for those of you lucky enough to be going. No schadenfreude on my part at all even though I'm not going. Just info for those that ARE going so your prepared for it... yep.
Hopefully they get this fixed before next year. I told Little JM a couple years ago that we would finally go to the Big 12s for David’s senior year.
Just saw this on the ol' Tweeter feed and thought I'd share for those of you lucky enough to be going. No schadenfreude on my part at all even though I'm not going. Just info for those that ARE going so your prepared for it... yep.
Most of us will come down Friday since the first session starts at 10 on Saturday so should be fine traffic-wise. And traffic should hopefully be light on the weekend for folks staying outside of downtown. See y'all there!
Hello- Can you confirm that the advancement point is awarded for a bye if you win the next match? I'm confused a bit.
Here's last year's results from Trackwrestling for Attasauov:
Ramazan Attasauov (16-7) placed 3rd and scored 12.5 team points.
- Quarterfinal - Ramazan Attasauov (Iowa St.) 16-7 won by major decision over Garett Lautzenheiser (West Virginia) 1-2 (MD 8-0)
- Semifinal - Daton Fix (OK State) 4-0 won by major decision over Ramazan Attasauov (Iowa St.) 16-7 (MD 13-3)
- Cons. Semi - Ramazan Attasauov (Iowa St.) 16-7 won by decision over Anthony Madrigal (Oklahoma) 12-10 (Dec 2-1)
- 3rd Place Match - Ramazan Attasauov (Iowa St.) 16-7 won by decision over Sidney Flores (Air Force) 8-2 (Dec 8-5)
Quarterfinal = 1 adv pt + 1 Maj Dec + 1 adv pt for BYE in Champ Rd 1
Semifinal = 0
Cons Semi = 0.5 adv pt
3rd Place = 10 placement pt
Total = 13.5 (Not the 12.5 from Trackwrestling results)
I have the same problem with Degen from last year:
Jarrett Degen (18-5) placed 4th and scored 10.5 team points.
- Quarterfinal - Jarrett Degen (Iowa St.) 18-5 won by decision over Jeff Boyd (West Virginia) 2-3 (Dec 3-1)
- Semifinal - Willie McDougald (Oklahoma) 12-5 won by decision over Jarrett Degen (Iowa St.) 18-5 (Dec 5-4)
- Cons. Semi - Jarrett Degen (Iowa St.) 18-5 won by decision over Josh Edmond (Missouri) 4-2 (Dec 15-13)
- 3rd Place Match - Colin Realbuto (N. Iowa) 3-1 won by decision over Jarrett Degen (Iowa St.) 18-5 (Dec 8-6)
Quarterfinal = 1 adv pt + 1 adv pt for BYE in Champ Rd 1
Semifinal = 0
Cons Semi = 0.5 adv pt
3rd Place = 9 placement pt
Total = 11.5 (Not the 10.5 from Trackwrestling results)
I can match Carr's however:
David Carr (21-0) placed 1st and scored 22.5 team points.
- Champ. Round 1 - David Carr (Iowa St.) 21-0 won by fall over Giano Petrucelli (Air Force) 5-4 (Fall 4:54)
- Quarterfinal - David Carr (Iowa St.) 21-0 won by tech fall over Jaxon Garoutte (Utah Valley) 6-9 (TF-1.5 7:00 (18-3))
- Semifinal - David Carr (Iowa St.) 21-0 won by decision over Jacob Wright (Wyoming) 19-6 (Dec 7-4)
- 1st Place Match - David Carr (Iowa St.) 21-0 won by decision over Jared Franek (North Dakota State) 2-1 (Dec 8-2)
Quarterfinal = 1 adv pt + 1.5 tech fall
Semifinal = 1 adv pt
1st Place = 16 placement pt
Total = 22.5 (Matches 22.5 from Trackwrestling results)
Confused - am I missing something?
The way they set the brackets up in TrackWrestling in previous years was, frankly, stupid. It resulted in having to go back and manually add the bye points later. So they were in the team total, but not attributed to the individual wrestler like they should have been.
| Team Points Detail For: Iowa St. |
| Weight Class | Name | Advancement Points | Activity Points | Placement Points | Total Points |
125 | Kysen Terukina | 0.5 | 0.0 | 3.0 | 3.5 |
133 | Ramazan Attasauov | 1.5 | 1.0 | 10.0 | 12.5 |
141 | Ian Parker | 1.0 | 0.0 | 7.0 | 8.0 |
149 | Jarrett Degen | 1.5 | 0.0 | 9.0 | 10.5 |
157 | David Carr | 3.0 | 3.5 | 16.0 | 22.5 |
165 | Isaac Judge | 1.0 | 0.0 | 6.0 | 7.0 |
174 | Joel Devine | 0.5 | 0.0 | 4.0 | 4.5 |
184 | Marcus Coleman | 1.5 | 2.5 | 10.0 | 14.0 |
197 | Yonger Bastida | 1.0 | 2.0 | 7.0 | 10.0 |
285 | Sam Schuyler | 2.5 | 1.5 | 9.0 | 13.0 |
133 QF Adv Pt | | 1.0 | |||
149 QF Adv Pt | | 1.0 | |||
184 QF Adv Pt | | 1.0 | |||
197 QF Adv Pt | | 1.0 | |||
141 Con 1 Bye Adv Pt. | | 0.5 | |||
Total Team Points | | 110.0 |
I knew you would have the answer! The Shadow knows!
Thanks, my friend - I am less confused now than I was this morning.
They were using a 12-man bracket instead of 16, so the byes weren't showing or calculating. With 13 teams this year, they finally are using a 16 bracket that shows the byes (which they should have been using all along).
That actually makes sense to me, believe it or not. There will be one more consolation round to account for byes with a 16 team bracket - right?
Some thought it would be Witcraft, who was already the opponent. Would be simple to leave it alone, so that probably won’t happen
Seeds are done by a panel appointed by the conference.
Brackets are done by who the hell knows.
One of the unseeded wrestlers would get voted up to 8th. Depending on who it is (and where they were in the original bracket), there may or may not be an entire redraw of the weight. I can see them leaving it alone if the move doesn't unbalance the byes.
My official prediction of weight/team winners and (ISU weight predictions)
125 - Volk (6th)
133 - Fix (2nd)
141 - Alirez (NP)
149 - Mauller (2nd)!
157 - Franek (7th)
165 - Carr
174 - Romero (8th)
184 - Keckeisen (2nd)
197 - Elam (3rd)
285 - Hendrickson (2nd)
1st - Mizzou
2nd - ISU
3rd - OSU
4th - NDSU
5th - UNI
125 - Volk (6th)
133 - Fix (2nd)
141 - Alirez (NP)
149 - Mauller (2nd)!
157 - Franek (7th)
165 - Carr
174 - Romero (8th)
184 - Keckeisen (2nd)
197 - Elam (3rd)
285 - Hendrickson (2nd)
1st - Mizzou
2nd - ISU
3rd - OSU
4th - NDSU
5th - UNI
This is closer to where I’m at but I would be so excited if 5 made the finals. I don’t think both Zach AND Paniro will though. And some of these weights I bet get really really weird with placing. Happens every year.
Just checked and the 125 bracket still lists Griffin. I wonder if they'll update the original document or if it'll be released supplementally in some way.
My nervous energy is already starting to build today. Getting really excited for tomorrow.
My nervous energy is already starting to build today. Getting really excited for tomorrow.
The coaches meeting isn't until later this afternoon/evening, which is when any changes would be made.