2023-24 ISU WBB Season Thread
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Thanks to @JimDogRock for the graph and insightful commentary going back to 2003. For those interested, here's the FT data going back to the beginning. I don't have much to add from a commentary standpoint other than it's clear ISU team FT% has been significantly higher during the Fennelly era than before it.
| Year | FTM | FTA | FT% |
1974 | 220 | 370 | 59.5% |
1975 | 231 | 356 | 64.9% |
1976 | 404 | 623 | 64.8% |
1977 | 301 | 466 | 64.6% |
1978 | 316 | 493 | 64.1% |
1979 | 308 | 514 | 59.9% |
1980 | 312 | 471 | 66.2% |
1981 | 236 | 380 | 62.1% |
1982 | 309 | 491 | 62.9% |
1983 | 360 | 518 | 69.5% |
1984 | 336 | 520 | 64.6% |
1985 | 357 | 504 | 70.8% |
1986 | 357 | 555 | 64.3% |
1987 | 332 | 559 | 59.4% |
1988 | 357 | 518 | 68.9% |
1989 | 286 | 435 | 65.7% |
1990 | 388 | 573 | 67.7% |
1991 | 326 | 457 | 71.3% |
1992 | 327 | 479 | 68.3% |
1993 | 319 | 502 | 63.5% |
1994 | 404 | 637 | 63.4% |
1995 | 415 | 654 | 63.5% |
1996 | 329 | 481 | 68.4% |
1997 | 351 | 499 | 70.3% |
1998 | 539 | 729 | 73.9% |
1999 | 541 | 767 | 70.5% |
2000 | 454 | 620 | 73.2% |
2001 | 470 | 635 | 74.0% |
2002 | 545 | 751 | 72.6% |
2003 | 323 | 466 | 69.3% |
2004 | 392 | 517 | 75.8% |
2005 | 404 | 539 | 75.0% |
2006 | 383 | 520 | 73.7% |
2007 | 465 | 625 | 74.4% |
2008 | 366 | 531 | 68.9% |
2009 | 462 | 631 | 73.2% |
2010 | 394 | 534 | 73.8% |
2011 | 451 | 632 | 71.4% |
2012 | 415 | 570 | 72.8% |
2013 | 459 | 570 | 80.5% |
2014 | 546 | 679 | 80.4% |
2015 | 424 | 551 | 77.0% |
2016 | 414 | 548 | 75.5% |
2017 | 445 | 557 | 79.9% |
2018 | 360 | 482 | 74.7% |
2019 | 478 | 603 | 79.3% |
2020 | 433 | 567 | 76.4% |
2021 | 393 | 475 | 82.7% |
2022 | 468 | 578 | 81.0% |
2023 | 468 | 583 | 80.3% |
2024 | 144 | 210 | 68.6% |
Crooks looks like she has been practicing. She shot very well Wed. But, yeah…it’s been painful to watch at times.
84% free throw percentage would be a lot of extra points the way Audi gets to the line.
Touching on this again. WVU still managed 13 steals in their blow out loss to Texas. Wednesday will be frustrating to watch I’m sure.
I don’t remember the last time CBF had a consistent 9 in the rotation. This team has so much talent, it’s hard to keep them off the floor.
Texas ate them alive inside. We could do the same.
General discussion item for the season thread: is this one if the best, if not the best, coaching jobs the Coach Fennelly has done in his 29 year career at ISU?
5 Freshmen. 3 starting and at least three on the floor most of the time. Only Diew and Ryan back who played significant time last year. Then Ryan is injured. Diew inconsistent with her shot - not her effort.
Yes, turn overs have been an issue, but the scoring has been good. All five Freshmen have been in doubt figures at least one game. 9 players making significant contributions.
5 Freshmen. 3 starting and at least three on the floor most of the time. Only Diew and Ryan back who played significant time last year. Then Ryan is injured. Diew inconsistent with her shot - not her effort.
Yes, turn overs have been an issue, but the scoring has been good. All five Freshmen have been in doubt figures at least one game. 9 players making significant contributions.
17% of the way into conference play is a little early to be anointing a best coaching job. What is clear, regardless of how the rest of the season goes, is that this recruiting class has proven to be great or better than it's high ranking. Coaching NCAA hoops is at least 50% recruiting and that part of the coaching for this season was an A+.
Enjoy the moment. A guy hitting a dozen homers in May doesn't mean he's going to hit 60 for the season. He might, but best to just enjoy the 12 first and worry about the 60 later.
BTW, turnovers haven't been crazy bad by any means. At 15/game (about league average) that's just a couple more than last years 13/game. We are only turning it over one more time per game than Baylor or Texas. Our turnovers margin looks so bad because we don't get the opponent to turn it over. Our opponent turnovers rank last in the league (by a lot) and that's why our turnover margin is also last.
It is interesting that we basically get no steals. Kelsey is the only one even averaging one a game. Is that just lacking in our players game or is it something that come with experience?
We tend to be a "force bad shots" defense rather than a "force turnovers" defense. Some players are particularly good at anticipating passes or poking the ball away and will get more steals because of that, but our defense isn't really designed to get steals.
Remember how bad Chelsea Poppens was during her freshman year shooting free throws. By her senior year she was almost automatic!
This is my take to. We are risk adverse. Attempting steals also means living with the risk of fouling and fouling is the anti-thesis to Fennelly Ball. We've heard dozens of times on broadcasts and interviews that ISU wants to make more free throws than the other team attempts. Pretty sure both Joens and Jackson could get steals in a different system. We will always be low in opponent turnovers, just not as low as this year with a green team. Not saying it doesn't make perfect sense to play the way we do. The companion stat that compliments our risk adverse style on the offense side is our assist to turnover ratio isn't bad considering the minutes played this year without an experienced PG.
Poppens improvement was pretty impressive considering her shot just looked bad as a freshman. Audi looks to have a nice stroke. Think as she gets more acclimated to playing through Div I fatigue we will see her improve in league play. Just my hot take. That's what's impressive about gals who have played a full game and can go to the line and make crucial free throws. Not as easy as shooting in practice or early in the game.
Plus there's the risk of trying and failing to get the steal and ending up behind the person you are defending. It's like our transition defense, where we likely give up a few offensive rebounds by going back so quickly but give up fewer transition baskets as a result.
The one-handed free throws drew a lot of lane violations, though.
Just saw that Addy Brown was named Freshman of the Week in the Big 12. Well deserved! Congratulations Addy!
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She's been consistently extremely good but has somehow managed to not have a standout week where another freshman didn't have gaudier stats. It was only a matter of time before she got one.
Brown is shooting 38 percent from 3 and 60 percent from inside the arc. He midrange jump shot is insanely good for a Freshman.
For almost anyone, an 18-footer is a really bad shot. She knocks those down like they are nothing.
I am super super high on her potential, and I'm obviously not alone on that. I know I'm preaching to the choir here.