hence why they are called the fake id of college footballBut that's the point! To say Iowa has a winning record against the east, yet can't beat the top teams from the east only means they rarely play the top teams from the east. The data supports that. Which simply means Iowa has been fortunate to continuously draw a conference schedule similar that to West Virginia's conference schedule this year. It should be something all Iowa fans should at least admit - it's not their fault. They didn't create the schedule. But just acknowledge part of their perceived "success" is because of their easier than average conference slate. Just make that acknowledgement and you'll make my day!
Edit: still waiting.....
F*CK IOWA
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Looks like Herbie has joined CF.
That hasn't stopped you from commenting in the past.
Probably about the same as Coach Kirk has done against ranked teams in the same amount of time.
Agree.
Since 2009 Iowa is...
1-3 vs Ohio State
4-7 vs Penn State
5-4 vs Michigan
10-14 vs the Beasts of the East
Playing Ohio State 4 times in 14 years is criminal. We've played Tulsa half that many times since '09 lol
Spot on. We've been fortunate not to have played OSU much. Bad matchup for Iowa. UM and PSU are much more Iowa's style.
Even more criminal is playing them twice in 10 seasons. Fellow Big 12 member Cincinnati has played Ohio State as many times as Iowa during that span, and they have played more games in the shoe than Iowa in those 10 years.
Maybe Cincinnati is really a Big 10 west school
True - but they still didn't play those two games. Even if we count those two games as being played, it's still below the number of times other big 10 west teams played Michigan and OSU. For comparison, here are the number of times each big 10 west school has played Michigan and OSU since the west/east split (edit: only regular season games shown)To be fair, Iowa was scheduled to play OSU in 2022 but the schedule was changed due to realignment. I'm cool with one less loss.
Also to be fair, Iowa's game with Michigan in 2020 was cancelled. Iowa was 6-2. Michigan 2-4. That was a win not realized.
So, I guess it's a wash.
LOL
Iowa: Michigan 3 times (2H, 1A), OSU 2 times (1H, 1A): Total: 5 times (3H, 2A)
Minnesota: Michigan 5 times (3H. 2A). OSU 5 times (2H, 3A): Total 10 times (5H, 5A)
Northwestern: Michigan 4 times (2H, 2A). OSU 3 times (2H, 1A): Total 7 times (4H, 3A)
Wisconsin: Michigan 6 times (3H, 3A), OSU 4 times (2H, 2A): Total 10 times (5H, 5A)
Nebraska: Michigan 4 times (2H, 2A), OSU 6 times (3H, 3A): Total 10 times (5H, 5A)
Purdue: Michigan 2 times (1H, 1A), OSU 3 times (2H, 1A): Total 5 times (3H, 2A)
Illinois: Michigan 3 times (1H, 2A), OSU 3 times (1H, 2A): Total 6 times (2H, 4A)
This just illustrates the unbalanced scheduling of the big 10 from 2014 - 2023. This is in large part because the league wanted to maintain the Purdue-Indiana game as an annual game. The league would had been better off to do a simple 4 year rotation: each team plays each cross divisional opponent twice in those four years; once at home and once on the road.
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I hate these super conferences and this is why. I miss the old Big 10 when it actually had 10 teams. Didn't mind when they went to 11 and added PSU, but anything past that, was dumb.
I actually agree with you on something!
This is really a different topic, but I would love to see 7 conferences with 10 teams each, with teams in each conference in close proximity geographically. Everyone would play 9 games within their conference + 3 games vs teams from other conferences (note: I'm not a scheduling expert, so I don't know if that math works for each team to face 3 non-conference opponents). I just miss the days when people could drive to any conference away game. I guess I'm old fashioned
Isn't that what some of you guys are doing to justify Iowa State being better than Iowa at this point in the season?
Or not. I can't keep up.
Do they really though?
Iowa State has had tougher football schedules than Iowa for nearly two solid decades and I think maybe 1 in 50 Iowa fans realize it. I might be generous there.
I mean right now Sagarin shows ISU's SOS as #7 and Iowa as #62. I guarantee if you asked 100 Iowa fans who had the harder schedule very few would say Iowa State even though Iowa State is the second highest rated team on this year's schedule per any power rating.
SOS will start shifting next year for both programs, but I'm not sure these fans really know just how cake it's been.
Interesting part of the article:
"The third factor cannot be overstated: Iowa plays in a terrible division, one full of similarly inept offenses, a place where the mesmerizing mediocrity runs deep. After the Hawkeyes, the other six teams in the Big Ten West are all clustered between 7–5 and 4–8, with a grand total of zero wins over ranked opponents. Outside of Iowa, the West went 1–6 in nonconference games against fellow Power 5 programs, and 6–12 against the Big Ten East.
Brian Ferentz was fired as offensive coordinator for not reaching his contractually obligated goal of averaging 25 points per game. If that provision were in the contracts of every OC in the West, they’d all be fired. No team in that division averaged more than 24.5."
So is Iowa's defense really one of the best, or have they been simply facing poor offenses? Probably a combination of both
All of this is changing next year and will be just what ISU fans want. Iowa playing in one of the P2 conferences will definitely make Iowa's schedule tougher. And ISU playing in the new Big 12 will make their schedule much easier.
And I feel bad for some of you and would suggest getting new Hawk friends. Every friend or family that I have knows the Big 10 West is bad, thinks that Iowa will get beaten badly tomorrow, knows that Iowa's offense is broken, and thinks that nothing will really change with the offense as long as KF is coaching.
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It’s still Power 4. I know you BIG10 types love to throw the P2 around like that.
ISU fans are happy Iowa finally plays a conference schedule that actually looks like they are in a power conference
