Tough day for EIU hoops hopes

Only saw the 1st half but they did get behind by a few buckets just as soon as they got ahead by about 6.

They seem to have lots of guys that will hit from about anywhere which could be a problem.

That said, Creighton from what I saw had close outs that would make Hoiberg's teams look relentless.
Yeah, it was a bit of culture shock watching two defenses putting no pressure on the ball, and still somehow leaving wide open lanes everywhere.

On offense, if it's open, no matter who it is, they're shooting without conscience. That gives them a puncher's chance if they're on.

As I said before, if we can stop them in their break and secondary break and make them play half court, I like our chances (unless they are just draining everything).
 
Only saw the 1st half but they did get behind by a few buckets just as soon as they got ahead by about 6.

They seem to have lots of guys that will hit from about anywhere which could be a problem.

That said, Creighton from what I saw had close outs that would make Hoiberg's teams look relentless.

I saw a little of the first half but the number of wide open looks Iowa was getting off of like two passes has to be concerning for Creighton.
 
My 2 takeaways from this game

1. Creighton really, really, really liked shooting the 3. Once they figured out they could get to the bucket well things turned but damn did they want to shoot the 3 so badly.

2. Ben Krikke looked pretty good. I'm curious to see what happens when teams start to clamp him from that midrange spot though
 
My takes aways are Creighton will NOT be a top 10 team very long. Iowa is fairly entertaining to watch but will struggle to finish in top 1/3 of conference.
Creighton’s aversion to fouling impacts their defense. They don’t play enough defense to be considered an elite team in my opinion. Definitely gifted offensively though.
 
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Early season games are weird. Iowa usually feasts on teams early in the year because they have better roster continuity than most teams. Creighton returns a LOT from last year though, so that advantage is pretty much neutralized. The game being away from Carver, where Iowa seems to shoot very well, is also a bit of a concern. That being said, *if* Iowa can shoot it well and *if* Creighton doesn't, I can see the Hawks keeping it close.

I still think a backdoor cover on the +12 is a likely scenario, but it would not shock me to see them keep it within 10 most of the game either.

Vegas just giving me their money.
 
Creighton’s aversion to fouling impacts their defense. They don’t play enough defense to be considered an elite team in my opinion. Definitely gifted offensively though.
Kind of like a Gonzaga light if you will. Very good on offense, but the defense is surely lacking.

Iowa did a lot better than I thought they would last night, but it is still the same ole Iowa under Fran. Lots of offense, very little defense or rebounding. This Iowa team will be on the bubble the entire year.
 
Kind of like a Gonzaga light if you will. Very good on offense, but the defense is surely lacking.

Iowa did a lot better than I thought they would last night, but it is still the same ole Iowa under Fran. Lots of offense, very little defense or rebounding. This Iowa team will be on the bubble the entire year.
Think I agree which is actually better than I thought preseason. Need better Pg play and defense who would of thought?

This freshman class has a chance to be Frans best recruiting class
 
Think I agree which is actually better than I thought preseason. Need better Pg play and defense who would of thought?

This freshman class has a chance to be Frans best recruiting class
Don't think anything will ever top the Murray's.
 
Yeah, the threat Iowa poses is that they will absolutely push it and shoot the first available open shot. That can negate a strong defense if they're hot. Have to match up well for the initial and secondary breaks.

It reminds me of my dad's offensive philosophy when he coached sophomore girls 6 on 6:

"shoot the instant you think you might be open, because a bad shot is better than the turnover you are about to commit"
 
Creighton’s defense is not as good as last year and they will miss Nembhard a lot. Iowa looked better than I thought they would but I think a lot of that is more Creighton than Iowa.
 
Money is one thing, but I could see her being ready to get out of the limelight. Her schedule has been asinine. Could see her very well being burnt out and just wanting to go to the WNBA to get some sort of normalcy.

The money for her is there either way. Your point on the grind of it is a good one. Wildcard is she does really enjoy herself on the court and she has a lot of loyalty to Bluder. Think it will be a tough decision.
 
The money for her is there either way. Your point on the grind of it is a good one. Wildcard is she does really enjoy herself on the court and she has a lot of loyalty to Bluder. Think it will be a tough decision.
I think a lot of it is how Iowa does in March. If Iowa loses in the final four, does she want one more crack at the national title and one more offseason to maybe get the help she needs in the portal? Or will Iowa win the title (doubtful, but a possibility), and she has accomplished what she wanted to do and she leaves?
 
My 2 takeaways from this game

1. Creighton really, really, really liked shooting the 3. Once they figured out they could get to the bucket well things turned but damn did they want to shoot the 3 so badly.

2. Ben Krikke looked pretty good. I'm curious to see what happens when teams start to clamp him from that midrange spot though
Spot on. Creighton missed 19 3's, which is 5 more than Iowa even attempted -- found that tidbit interesting as Iowa under Fran is historically very live by the 3 die by the 3 and attempt easily 20+ on a per game basis -- but these were bad misses for Creighton on otherwise good shot selection. A lot of wide open and unguarded attempts that just didn't fall, especially in the final 7ish minutes of the game which allowed Iowa to make the final score appear competitive.

Krikke does looks pretty good. Offensively he looks even better than Rebraca who was very good last year and gave us all kinds of problems in Iowa City. He is nowhere near Rebraca on the glass though. And as others have noted, Creighton's defense was folding like a cheap lawn chair last night, and we all know that won't happen against ISU.

Other things I noticed after watching the latter part of the 2nd half and perusing the box score of this game and previous games:

Fran's 2023 class is looking pretty good through 3 games. Harding is small, but I can tell he has some game. I do think Cyclone fans will find him annoying, maybe not this year, but down the road. Freeman looks like he has great size and potential. Ugly haircut, but that is most kids these days. Dembele is big body that is going to be able to stretch the floor for them. Overall I think Fran did well hitting doubles and triples in the recruiting class.

Fran's 2022 class is not looking great. Dix and Bowen were nowhere to be found down the stretch last night while Iowa was making their run to get back into the game, and combined for 2 points in 43 minutes. I get that scoring is not something either of them are going to be relied on to do for this years team, but that lack of production is borderline useless IMO, They did have 6 assist between them, so I guess there is that. But neither of them stand out at this point, which is surprising given that one starts and one was projected to start prior to the season.

Final note: Someone ponied up some cash for the boys to get some ink this year. Patrick and Harding in particular have some pretty menacing looking half sleeves.
 
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Think I agree which is actually better than I thought preseason. Need better Pg play and defense who would of thought?

This freshman class has a chance to be Frans best recruiting class
I can't believe I am about to type this, but yes, I agree. Removing the Murray class of course.
 
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My take is Iowa will hit full stride in Fadeuary,

To be fair ISU's not exactly been great in that month but it's also not TJ's 10 lthe year or whatever.

Hopefully they have the legs and offense to finish stronger this season.
 
Don't think anything will ever top the Murray's.
Good point that had Perkins too. I like this class harding had rough night but I think all 4 will be solid in 1-2 years and dembele and freeman have high ceilings. Didn't expect Dembele to be as polished as he is
 

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