Tough day for EIU hoops hopes

Unimpressed with Kalkbrenner. He should be dominating this game and he’s been pretty much a non-factor.

Iowa is playing well, pushing the pace, doing what they do. Creighton isn’t hitting wide open threes but good things have happened when they get to the paint.

Iowa looks like a team that knows who they are and Creighton is playing into Iowa’s game by taking quick shots and turning it over. Creighton is by far the superior talented team but Iowa has their **** together more than Creighton does.
 
Fran stuck with the starters too long to start the second half. Interior defense is going to be an issue against good offensive rebounding teams.

They’ll be a fun team to watch though.
 
Iowa doesn’t look half bad. I imagine they are another 20-21 win team and a loss in first round of tournament again
Gave up their standard 90+ on defense and made a game of it because Creighton played zero defense of their own. Seen one Fran game, seen em all.
 
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Iowa doesn’t look half bad. I imagine they are another 20-21 win team and a loss in first round of tournament again
Yeah, I only watched the last 10 minutes, but that was my takeaway too. There should be potential for them to be really bad, but I think the freshman class is actually pretty decent as much as I wish it wasn't.

Looking ahead, I think they lose in Hilton to us by a lot unless their 3s are falling early or the refs are calling it tight. Our no middle defense (should) make it tough on guys like Krikke and Freeman, who both looked good from what I saw tonight. Freeman was taking it to Kalkbrenner and beating him consistently. Creighton looked pretty soft on D and I've never been huge on Kalkbrenner, but that is a true freshman going against a bigger senior and winning.
 
Fran stuck with the starters too long to start the second half. Interior defense is going to be an issue against good offensive rebounding teams.

They’ll be a fun team to watch though.
It's a lot of the same, just with younger players and no clear cut all American type stud. So I agree with the assessment of it being fun to watch. Well, as fun as it can possibly be to watch a Fran team.
 
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Old Neck Beard is your typical arm chair Iowa fan. Thinks everything is a foul. Talked with a gal that knows him from Madrid and says all he does talk. She just rolls her eyes when I mention is name and goes OMG!
 
Yeah, I only watched the last 10 minutes, but that was my takeaway too. There should be potential for them to be really bad, but I think the freshman class is actually pretty decent as much as I wish it wasn't.

Looking ahead, I think they lose in Hilton to us by a lot unless their 3s are falling early or the refs are calling it tight. Our no middle defense (should) make it tough on guys like Krikke and Freeman, who both looked good from what I saw tonight. Freeman was taking it to Kalkbrenner and beating him consistently. Creighton looked pretty soft on D and I've never been huge on Kalkbrenner, but that is a true freshman going against a bigger senior and winning.

I need to see ISU play someone with a pulse before making any kind of judgement on this but I think it will be tough for ISU either way.
 
Then how do you explain this brilliant coaching adjustment that led to a monumental comeback?

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You mean keeping Fran away from the team so he can’t screw it up?
 
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I need to see ISU play someone with a pulse before making any kind of judgement on this but I think it will be tough for ISU either way.
Yeah, the threat Iowa poses is that they will absolutely push it and shoot the first available open shot. That can negate a strong defense if they're hot. Have to match up well for the initial and secondary breaks.
 
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You shoot 50% from the field and 42% from 3 like Iowa did tonight that’s a win almost every time. Instead they were down 17 and then Creighton basically didn’t hit another FG the rest of the way. Again Iowa gives up waaay too many dunks and easy layups. But they are “scrappy” and they move the ball well and can shoot it. They’ll win games but have no shot at accomplishing anything meaningful.
 
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Two years ago ISU walked into Creighton with a new coach and a thrown together crew of players. Basically given zero chance against a very good big east team coached by that legend Greg McDermont.


Guess what happened?

I don't know why it is, maybe some love affair with teams in that conference, but Creighton for the last few years has been given all the pre season love in the world. What little I saw last night isn't even close to a top 10 team and may not even finish in the top half of the big east.

Of course the season is long and who knows. But now....no way.

As for Iowa against us......all ISU fans have seen this year is a handful of glorified high school teams. Of course any team that looks like they know what to do will be a concern. If Iowa shoots like they did out of the gate last year......they have a punchers chance in Hilton. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
 
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You shoot 50% from the field and 42% from 3 like Iowa did tonight that’s a win almost every time. Instead they were down 17 and then Creighton basically didn’t hit another FG the rest of the way. Again Iowa gives up waaay too many dunks and easy layups. But they are “scrappy” and they move the ball well and can shoot it. They’ll win games but have no shot at accomplishing anything meaningful.

Only saw the 1st half but they did get behind by a few buckets just as soon as they got ahead by about 6.

They seem to have lots of guys that will hit from about anywhere which could be a problem.

That said, Creighton from what I saw had close outs that would make Hoiberg's teams look relentless.
 

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