Does the B12 Tournament matter?

[IASTATE07]

Gabe said they came down to KC to win the tournament. I guess it matters to our players and coaches.

 

[trevn]

I've written from the start that this tournament matters to the fans and the coffers. Whether it does to the players and coaches is up for debate. King McClure said he had his doubts about the latter. Naturally, winning it is great for fan bravado.

 

[BryceC]

Only ******* losers think these games don’t matter. Winning in your conference tournaments could jump you multiple seeds. Only ******* morons think it doesn’t matter. If OSU gets in, tell them that that the one win they got didn’t matter. Tell that to WVU who likely jumped a seed by winning. Tell that to the players of whomever ends up winning the tournament, that the tournament didn’t matter.

The mentality basically asserts no games matter unless they lead to you winning the conference regular season or in the NCAA tournament. Which is just completely false.

 

[surly]

Gabe said they came down to KC to win the tournament. I guess it matters to our players and coaches.

1. Kansas: 13-5 Big 12, 25-6 overall
2. Texas: 12-6 Big 12, 23-8 overall
3. Kansas State 11-7 Big 12, 23-8 overall
4. Baylor: 11-7 Big 12, 22-9 overall
5. Iowa State: 9-9 Big 12, 18-12 overall
6. TCU: 9-9 Big 12, 20-11 overall
7. Oklahoma State: 8-10 Big 12, 17-14 overall
8. West Virginia: 7-11 Big 12, 18-13 overall
9. Texas Tech: 5-13 Big 12, 16-15 overall
10. Oklahoma: 5-13 Big 12, 15-16 overall

 

[JP4CY]

In this matter, to talk about the value of the B12 tournament to players and coaches, mostly following King McClure's comments that it just didn't matter to many of them.

You think winning games doesn't matter to many players? LOL.

 

[1100011CS]

So, when KSU bows out of the NCAA tournament in the first round will that one not matter too?

 

[BryceC]

Gabe said they came down to KC to win the tournament. I guess it matters to our players and coaches.

False. King McClure has spoken

 

[surly]

So, when KSU bows out of the NCAA tournament in the first round will that one not matter too?

That would be a real blow, unlike losing to TCU in the afterthought.

 

[JP4CY]

Why is King McClure's opinion more important than say someone like Georges Niang?

Again

 

[madguy30]

It isn't a big deal if you lose early(unless you need a win or two to get in the Dance), but it's a big deal if you win it.

But I'M not playing in the games. The only hand I have in this is enjoying it if they're playing. The only thing that matters to me is the team is in the NCAA tourney, so everything else is just more enjoyment.

The players have other things going on that is a whole other world.

 

[GMackey32]

I guess it doesn’t matter to a school and it’s fans who haven’t won one in over 40 years. Auto bids are gross apparently.

 

[trevn]

Who would want to win a 3-4 day tournament in the best conference in America? Yawn.

 

[IASTATE07]

1. Kansas: 13-5 Big 12, 25-6 overall
2. Texas: 12-6 Big 12, 23-8 overall
3. Kansas State 11-7 Big 12, 23-8 overall
4. Baylor: 11-7 Big 12, 22-9 overall
5. Iowa State: 9-9 Big 12, 18-12 overall
6. TCU: 9-9 Big 12, 20-11 overall
7. Oklahoma State: 8-10 Big 12, 17-14 overall
8. West Virginia: 7-11 Big 12, 18-13 overall
9. Texas Tech: 5-13 Big 12, 16-15 overall
10. Oklahoma: 5-13 Big 12, 15-16 overall

I'm not sure what you're attempting to say.

 

[NWICY]

Meaningless, like I said. The 2023 B12 champion is Ku, not the winner of this afterthought.

I'm always amazed at the fights you chose to pick and then continue instead of just letting them die. ISU fans love K.C. and the tourney and you just wanted to poke the hornet nest for something to do.

 

[PSYclone22]

In this matter, to talk about the value of the B12 tournament to players and coaches, mostly following King McClure's comments that it just didn't matter to many of them.

Jerome Tang:

"Playing in this incredible event, disappointed in letting them (the fans down). I didn't do a good job preparing for how physical things are in the Big 12 tournament, that won't happen again."

Doesn't matter.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I'm not sure what you're attempting to say.

It only matters to the teams below KSU because look! That’s who won the games. Oh and KU apparently.

 

[MJ271]

In this matter, to talk about the value of the B12 tournament to players and coaches, mostly following King McClure's comments that it just didn't matter to many of them.

It's much easier for a player to say that a game didn't matter to him after he's already lost it. If any of his teams had won it (or if Baylor had ever won it at all), I'm guessing his story might change.

 

[CloneLawman]

I'm always amazed at the fights you chose to pick and then continue instead of just letting them die. ISU fans love K.C. and the tourney and you just wanted to poke the hornet nest for something to do.

Not great, Bob. Too bad an undermanned TCU waxed your purple kitties. And yes, totally ad hominem, because sic semper trolluss!

 

[PSYclone22]

It's much easier for a player to say that a game didn't matter to him after he's already lost it. If any of his teams had won it (or if Baylor had ever won it at all), I'm guessing his story might change.

King's Big 12 tourney career:

Semifinal loss (5 seed)
Quarters loss (3 seed)
Quarters loss (6 seed)
Quarters loss (4 seed)

Maybe when you go 1-4 in your career in tourney games you tell everyone they don't matter

 

[Cyballzz]

I am a fan of adding hardware to the trophy case.