BCS Worst Nightmare
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By your logic, I should still be driving my '76 Nova, because it was better than what I had before too.
Anyone else miss the "Most wonderful week of the year" between Christmas and New Years where all it was was bowl games all day long on those days. Now they spread them out to put them all in primetime and we have games still on 1/6.
1978 Florida A&M 35, Massachusetts 28 Rudy Hubbard Wichita Falls, Texas 1979 Eastern Kentucky 30, Lehigh 7 Roy Kidd Orlando, Florida 1980 Boise State 31, Eastern Kentucky 29 Jim Criner Sacramento, California 1981 Idaho State 34, Eastern Kentucky 23 Dave Kragthorpe Wichita Falls, Texas 1982 Eastern Kentucky 17, Delaware 14 Roy Kidd Wichita Falls, Texas 1983 Southern Illinois 43, Western Carolina 7 Rey Dempsey Charleston, South Carolina 1984 Montana State 19, Louisiana Tech 6 Dave Arnold Charleston, South Carolina 1985 Georgia Southern 44, Furman 42 Erk Russell Tacoma, Washington 1986 Georgia Southern 48, Arkansas State 21 Erk Russell Tacoma, Washington 1987 Northeast Louisiana 43, Marshall 42 Pat Collins Pocatello, Idaho 1988 Furman 17, Georgia Southern 12 Jimmy Satterfield Pocatello, Idaho 1989 Georgia Southern 37, Stephen F. Austin 34 Erk Russell Statesboro, Georgia 1990 Georgia Southern 36, Nevada 13 Tim Stowers Statesboro, Georgia 1991 Youngstown State 25, Marshall 17 Jim Tressel Statesboro, Georgia 1992 Marshall 31, Youngstown State 28 Jim Donnan Huntington, West Virginia 1993 Youngstown State 17, Marshall 5 Jim Tressel Huntington, West Virginia 1994 Youngstown State 28, Boise State 14 Jim Tressel Huntington, West Virginia 1995 Montana 22, Marshall 20 Don Read Huntington, West Virginia 1996 Marshall 49, Montana 29 Bob Pruett Huntington, West Virginia 1997 Youngstown State 10, McNeese State 9 Jim Tressel Chattanooga, Tennessee 1998 Massachusetts 55, Georgia Southern 43 Mark Whipple Chattanooga, Tennessee 1999 Georgia Southern 59, Youngstown State 24 Paul Johnson Chattanooga, Tennessee 2000 Georgia Southern 27, Montana 25 Paul Johnson Chattanooga, Tennessee 2001 Montana 13, Furman 6 Joe Glenn Chattanooga, Tennessee 2002 Western Kentucky 34, McNeese State 14 Jack Harbaugh Chattanooga, Tennessee 2003 Delaware 40, Colgate 0 K.C. Keeler Chattanooga, Tennessee 2004 James Madison 31, Montana 21 Mickey Matthews Chattanooga, Tennessee 2005 Appalachian St 21, Northern Iowa 16 Jerry Moore Chattanooga, Tennessee 2006 Appalachian St. 28, Massachusetts 17 Jerry Moore Chattanooga, Tennessee 2007 Appalachian St. 49, Delaware 21 Jerry Moore Chattanooga, Tennessee 2008 Richmond 24, Montana 7 Mike London
Thirty years of playoffs.
Thirty years of playoffs.
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I think this year was more the result of News Years falling on a thursday and capitalizing on 4 day weekend audience.
Put new years on a Tuesday, and I bet more games would be on this year. I didnt mind it cause my DVR can only do 2 at a time.
The age of the car is immaterial. It was a piece of **** and barely ran, but it was better than a moped.
I'm only against that because it's too many teams. We only need to get at most 6 teams playing to determine national champion. We're not playing it to determine 2nd, 3rd and 4th. With 6 teams it's about 99% that you'll end up with the best team winning and not getting left out.
There are a lot of plans out there that keep the bowls around for everyone to go play in and still give a play-off at the top.
I think it's important as an ISU fan to keep the bowl games around, as we need something to play for until we can build up to a Nat'l Champ Contend!:wink:
I think it's important as an ISU fan to keep the bowl games around, as we need something to play for until we can build up to a Nat'l Champ Contend!:wink:
Did the BCS lose money this year? If the answer is no, then this is not the BCS's worse nightmare.
I don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but why not just use the FCS formula. It seems to work. I don't understand how every other division has a playoff and it doesn't disrupt their academics too much like the Presidents of of the BCS argue would happen.
I heard someone say they wouldn't travel to see the games if it was 4 games. UNI hasn't had that problem. March Madness doesn't have that problem. Besides, unless its a program like Florida, USC, Oklahoma, etc, most teams won't be in the thing every year even if it was 16 teams.
I think the playoff will just increase parity throughout college football, which is probably what the BCS dictators are afraid of. If it starts to look like teams such as Boise and Utah from the non BCS conferences are just as good, which I think Utah already proved, you start to loose power and money. Everyone knows that is what this is really about. Overall everyone would gain more money, making the playing field even more level. In reality it is discrimination. You have a system that on the outside looks fair, but in reality, not everyone is treated equally from the onset. If you look at Utahs schedule, there is no way they shouldn't be the champs. Their schedule was definately tougher than any ACC team, or Big Ten team. The only thing preventing the small conferences from bailing is that its really the only rules they can play by.
I heard someone say they wouldn't travel to see the games if it was 4 games. UNI hasn't had that problem. March Madness doesn't have that problem. Besides, unless its a program like Florida, USC, Oklahoma, etc, most teams won't be in the thing every year even if it was 16 teams.
I think the playoff will just increase parity throughout college football, which is probably what the BCS dictators are afraid of. If it starts to look like teams such as Boise and Utah from the non BCS conferences are just as good, which I think Utah already proved, you start to loose power and money. Everyone knows that is what this is really about. Overall everyone would gain more money, making the playing field even more level. In reality it is discrimination. You have a system that on the outside looks fair, but in reality, not everyone is treated equally from the onset. If you look at Utahs schedule, there is no way they shouldn't be the champs. Their schedule was definately tougher than any ACC team, or Big Ten team. The only thing preventing the small conferences from bailing is that its really the only rules they can play by.
I think FOX lost money on the BCS again. If I heard correctly, they have not made ANY money on the BCS which is why they were not throwing a bigger fit when ESPN got the BCS. I will not be able to watch since I do not have cable/satellite.
Great post... Go UTES!! I grew up in SLC
I whole heartedly disagree that that was a great post. Just because you go undefeated and by the transitive property beat other teams does NOT make you the champion. :no:
So is Ball State tied as the second best team in the country because they only have 1 loss? Good God no. You can't pick and choose when you use that argument and that argument is absolutely horrible.
@ Michigan 1-0 (0-0) W 25-23
UNLV 2-0 (1-0) W 42-21
@ Utah State 3-0 (1-0) W 58-10
@ Air Force 4-0 (2-0) W 30-23
Weber State 5-0 (2-0) W 37-21
Oregon State 6-0 (2-0) W 31-28
@ Wyoming 7-0 (3-0) W 40-7
Colorado State 8-0 (4-0) W 49-16
@ New Mexico 9-0 (5-0) W 13-10
No. 12 TCU 10-0 (6-0) W 13-10
@ San Diego State 11-0 (7-0) W 63-14
No. 14 Brigham Young 12-0 (8-0) W 48-24
vs. No. 4 Alabama 13-0 (8-0) W 31-17
Looking at this schedule, Utah didn't have a quality win until 10 games into the season. Michigan? Let's think of how Michigan started the year: Absolutely terrible. Oregon State was a home game and just coming off the biggest win of their season. TCU was their first quality win, and they barely squeaked that out at home. BYU was another quality win, yet another win at home. Alabama was an excellent win, but on a neutral field. They gained a lot just by the schedule they played (see Kansas last year) and never had to play a good team on the road (neutral fields, yes, true road games, no).
Hawaii 1-0 (0-0) W 56-10
Miami (FL) 2-0 (0-0) W 26-3
@ Tennessee 3-0 (1-0) W 30-6
No. 20 Mississippi 3-1 (1-1) L 31-30
@ Arkansas 4-1 (2-1) W 38-7
No. 4 LSU 5-1 (3-1) W 51-21
Kentucky 6-1 (4-1) W 63-5
@ No. 6 Georgia 7-1 (5-1) W 49-10
@ Vanderbilt 8-1 (6-1) W 42-14
No. 25 South Carolina 9-1 (7-1) W 56-6
Citadel 10-1 (7-1) W 70-19
@ No. 20 Florida State 11-1 (7-1) W 45-15
vs. No. 1 Alabama 12-1 (7-1) W 31-20
Now here is the schedule of Florida, a one loss (to this point) team. Week 4, lost to a ranked team by a point. LSU rolled into Florida with a #4 ranking, and left with a black eye. Florida went between the hedges and smoked Georgia and their #6 ranking. Smoked a Vanderbilt team that went on to a bowl game. Smoked a South Carolina team that went on to a bowl game
skeptical Annihilated a Citadel team that's, well, the Citadel. Annihilated a Florida State team that went on to a bowl on the road. To cap it off, beat an Alabama team on a neutral field just like Utah did. I'm guessing I could probably make the same argument with Oklahoma or Texas, 2 win loss teams that would give a Utah a run for their money, and I would be willing to say beat the Utes. Is Utah an excellent team? Damn right they are! Are they the clear cut national champion? Nope.
I whole heartedly disagree that that was a great post. Just because you go undefeated and by the transitive property beat other teams does NOT make you the champion. :no:
So is Ball State tied as the second best team in the country because they only have 1 loss? Good God no. You can't pick and choose when you use that argument and that argument is absolutely horrible.
@ Michigan 1-0 (0-0) W 25-23
UNLV 2-0 (1-0) W 42-21
@ Utah State 3-0 (1-0) W 58-10
@ Air Force 4-0 (2-0) W 30-23
Weber State 5-0 (2-0) W 37-21
Oregon State 6-0 (2-0) W 31-28
@ Wyoming 7-0 (3-0) W 40-7
Colorado State 8-0 (4-0) W 49-16
@ New Mexico 9-0 (5-0) W 13-10
No. 12 TCU 10-0 (6-0) W 13-10
@ San Diego State 11-0 (7-0) W 63-14
No. 14 Brigham Young 12-0 (8-0) W 48-24
vs. No. 4 Alabama 13-0 (8-0) W 31-17
Looking at this schedule, Utah didn't have a quality win until 10 games into the season. Michigan? Let's think of how Michigan started the year: Absolutely terrible. Oregon State was a home game and just coming off the biggest win of their season. TCU was their first quality win, and they barely squeaked that out at home. BYU was another quality win, yet another win at home. Alabama was an excellent win, but on a neutral field. They gained a lot just by the schedule they played (see Kansas last year) and never had to play a good team on the road (neutral fields, yes, true road games, no).
Hawaii 1-0 (0-0) W 56-10
Miami (FL) 2-0 (0-0) W 26-3
@ Tennessee 3-0 (1-0) W 30-6
No. 20 Mississippi 3-1 (1-1) L 31-30
@ Arkansas 4-1 (2-1) W 38-7
No. 4 LSU 5-1 (3-1) W 51-21
Kentucky 6-1 (4-1) W 63-5
@ No. 6 Georgia 7-1 (5-1) W 49-10
@ Vanderbilt 8-1 (6-1) W 42-14
No. 25 South Carolina 9-1 (7-1) W 56-6
Citadel 10-1 (7-1) W 70-19
@ No. 20 Florida State 11-1 (7-1) W 45-15
vs. No. 1 Alabama 12-1 (7-1) W 31-20
Now here is the schedule of Florida, a one loss (to this point) team. Week 4, lost to a ranked team by a point. LSU rolled into Florida with a #4 ranking, and left with a black eye. Florida went between the hedges and smoked Georgia and their #6 ranking. Smoked a Vanderbilt team that went on to a bowl game. Smoked a South Carolina team that went on to a bowl game
To counter-argue, no one knew at the time that the Michigan win wasn't going to be a quality win. That decision is made in retrospect. Also, Oregon St was a solid win at game #6.
Now, I'm not going out to say that Utah deserves the national championship. But if I had a vote in one of the other media polls, I'd probably vote Utah just to spite the BCS.
Ok, that I messed up. However, the fact still remains they didn't prove they could go on the road and beat any decent teams. Their schedule helped them immensely. At least a couple years down the road we'll be able to end their undefeated season right off the bat
