Keeping TJ

Don't want. Why would we want an assistant that we are just "hoping" will stay for a year or two? What is he going to bring to table... This is not a Fred situation(an unproven head coach). TJ is no Lutz or Sadler that needs to help Prohm to his feet wet. If he does stay and then bolts for another assistant job... Will he take his recruits with him? Keeping him would be a set back for the program in my opinion.
 
So a guy who mainly recruits at a college level is going to be an NBA assistant? Wow, that would be very smart of Hoiberg to bring a guy of his credentials to the NBA. Might wan't to use your head moron.

You must have missed the part where Fred said TJ was in charge of scouting reports and a major contributor to the X's & O's. But that wouldn't fit your narrative.
 
So far Fred is bringing the following players/coaches to the Bulls:
Charlie Henry (last I read he will actually be on staff)
TJ
Cornell Mann
Royce White
Kane
Monte (next year)
Harrison Barnes

Anybody else with an Iowa State/Ames connection Fred will bring in?

CW for Bulls Fanatic:sad:
I hate to mention this is the same breath as CW, but Randy Pete to Chicago Tribune.:smile:
 
TJ responsible for getting a majority of our current roster in some way shape or form... if we lose him, I could easily see Thomas, Noskowiak, and Georgios follow. Wouldn't affect this years team much, but as far as our future... we would have none.
 
Id like to see TJ stay assuming he's in for at least 2 years. If he were to leave before the 2016-17 season it would be better to start recruits with someone who will be around.
 
He (or at least his family) wants to be in Ames. I believe there was a quote saying his wife said she's moving back to Iowa whether he is with her or not. I say do everything you can to hire and retain a great recruiter, someone who Fred held in high regard, and has local ties.

He and his wife just bought a home in Ankeny. So much for Ames.

If he is purchasing a house, I suspect he will be here a few years, even with the strong housing market we are experiencing.

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Don't want. Why would we want an assistant that we are just "hoping" will stay for a year or two? What is he going to bring to table... This is not a Fred situation(an unproven head coach). TJ is no Lutz or Sadler that needs to help Prohm to his feet wet. If he does stay and then bolts for another assistant job... Will he take his recruits with him? Keeping him would be a set back for the program in my opinion.

This is a silly diatribe.

TJ is going to bring significant established P5 recruiting. He's got great connections. He's been an assistant coach in the B12 and P12.

There is immense value there!

I suspect the conversation with Pollard went something like this ... "I'd love to keep TJ Otz if he wants to be on staff. If he doesn't want to be here then I will fill the roster with my guys at Murray State."

Two of his assistants have been with him since he's been at Murray State. Will be interesting if either of them get the MSU job.
 
I think Otz will stay and be supportive. Otz has a real chance to stay and improve his name. If he helps Prohm a lot and ISU stays successful then he will likely be the one that takes over for Prohm if he leaves in 3-4 years. If he doesn't want to wait that long and bolts after a couple of years, he can get a job at a pretty solid school, so at least we had him and he helped us get a few good recruits. The last thing Otz wants to do is make himself look like a selfish headcase when he wants to become a head coach down the road.

Otz extended a lot of offers to the 2016 class so I think it's critical we keep him as long there isn't bad between him and Prohm. He needs to stay.
 
I think Otz will stay and be supportive. Otz has a real chance to stay and improve his name. If he helps Prohm a lot and ISU stays successful then he will likely be the one that takes over for Prohm if he leaves in 3-4 years. If he doesn't want to wait that long and bolts after a couple of years, he can get a job at a pretty solid school, so at least we had him and he helped us get a few good recruits. The last thing Otz wants to do is make himself look like a selfish headcase when he wants to become a head coach down the road.

Otz extended a lot of offers to the 2016 class so I think it's critical we keep him as long there isn't bad between him and Prohm. He needs to stay.

I think he (TJ) stays for a year and then makes a full court press for a head coaching job somewhere. Pad your resume working for McDermott, Romar, Hoiberg and Prohm. Good references, larger network.

Keeping him for at least a year would also be a smart move by Prohm. Helps with transition. Buy in by the players. Helps with recruiting. If after a year it isn't working then you move on.
 
The guys Hoiberg won with are the guys TJ recruited.

The comment was about how is was going to coach - not the players that are here now. No one know how he would have coached. People just seem to assume he will have a Fred style. My point is that he spent more time under McD and twice the amount of time under McD+Romar than Fred... So that is quite an assumption to make.
 
I hope he stays, he knows the current players and Ames. He wasn't getting HC jobs as it is, so maybe living on $400K / year in Ames is ok???

Plus having two young kids, moving around the country is not a lot of fun. If they really like Ames and is able to help ISU continue its upward trend, he will get a HC job soon. Recruiting to 3 schools in a 4 month window may not look to good to recruits.

Let TJ recruit the midwest and Prohm bring in guys to work the south.
 
This seems to be the biggest selling point that I'm seeing thrown around. Color me underwhelmed, the NBA is a fickle thing and I don't put much credence in to a guy getting drafted = great college player.

So now that we have the HC experience that everyone wanted so bad we're going to trust our recruiting to mid-major assistants that have never recruited at a P5 level?

Well you can say goodbye to Canada and Brewster again if TJ is gone. Of course we've gotten used to that the past couple of years since TJ stopped recruiting for us but this isn't going to be Hoiball. I'm fine with the hire, but my expectations have been tempered massively. Getting players is a huge concern for me now and I hope that one of our fine reporters asks the question about Transfer U at the first opportunity.



It's actually a finite thing, if you don't get players, you get fired.
 
First this needs to be Prohm's decision, TJ and all the Assistants will get paid if they get let go so while I will feel bad for them it is part of the business and Prohm need to be comfortable and have the full support of his staff from Day 1.

Reasons SP should want TJ on staff IMO.

1. Ease the transition with the new players as Otz has recruited most of the players on the roster and can be used as a go in-between if needed to get any issues ironed out. Next year is a big and potentially great year, misunderstandings leading to discontent would be a major issue and something that should be avoided if at all possible. Keep the young players from transferring out is a concern with any new head of the program TJ would help in that regard.

2. Recruiting the Midwest and North East. Prohm and his staff have done a good job building a program in the south and getting Mid Major and 3 star players but recruiting to Iowa State is a different animal. As far as I am aware SP doesn't have a lot of Northern Recruiting connections to AAU teams. Otz can help make those connections and get players to consider Prohm and his style right away, even if he would be looking to jump soon (No way any of us know what TJ's plans are right now. He may not this is a big curve ball from what he original agreed to).

3. TJ is looked upon favorably by the AD and many finiancial supporters of ISU, it would be a nice olive branch to extend right away to them to welcome Otz and help with introductions and how to talk each personality.

I hope TJ stays if only for a year and hopefully a few more and leave for his own coaching Job.
 
TJ would be crazy to leave now, for anything other than a head coaching gig. Take the high road, enjoy the ride on a potentially historic season, then if you feel so inclined after the season is over, start looking around for your next move.
 

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