You can win at Football at ISU
- Thread starter kingcy
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After seeing Mangino up close I think KU proved they could jump up for one or two great seasons. Not sure they could have maintained what they had. Snyder and Beamer are the golden ticket comparisons likely.
From what I've read, this was Todd Monken recruiting approach at Southern Miss. Lots of transfers, juco
PJ Fleck would be nice, but the off the field problems with him are to fresh and scandalous.
I'm not too blind to say KSU football has had some similarities to ISU basketball. Not the current team necessarily but some of Fred's early teams. We kick started our hoops program after the McD years with some Snyder philosophy.
ISU does have excellent facilities, but outside of KU and WVU everyone in the conference is stacked facility wise and both of them are looking to improve. The same goes for TV exposure and money.
with basketball though you need two good players to be competitive. Football there is just so many more dudes you have to keep an eye on.
Also Snyder did it with the shady kids before twitter, camera phones, instagram etc etc
ISU has more competitive pieces now than ever before, but we have to get someone on a plane to visit to see it. To me, THAT'S the challenge. It's the same struggle we have recruiting players. Once they get here, they see how good it could be but we have to GET them here first. The only thing we're missing is winning history.
top 5 worse jobs really? Lets loook around.
Worse Power 5 schools than ISU in terms of stadium, fans, facilities, etc. IMO
Big 12
-Kansas
PAC 12
-Oregon St
-Washington St
-Colorado (I live here, nobody cares about CU football)
Big 10
-Northwestern
-Purdue
-Rutgers
-Indiana
SEC
-Vanderbilt
ACC
-Wake Forest
-Boston College
Independent
-Air Force
On Par with ISU.
Big 12
-Kansas St
-WV
-Texas Tech (would be worse than ISU if not in Texas)
PAC 12
-Utah
Big 10
-Minnesota
-Maryland (only because they have underarmor $$, otherwise worse than ISU)
-Illinois
-Nebraska (mainly because of unrealistic expectations)
SEC
-Missouri (debatable)
ACC
-Duke (Probably worse job than ISU, but in an easier conference)
-Syracuse (does anybody even care about 'Cuse ball?)
-Pittsburgh (they are good this year, but do their fans/facilities even compare?)
-Virginia
Worse Power 5 schools than ISU in terms of stadium, fans, facilities, etc. IMO
Big 12
-Kansas
PAC 12
-Oregon St
-Washington St
-Colorado (I live here, nobody cares about CU football)
Big 10
-Northwestern
-Purdue
-Rutgers
-Indiana
SEC
-Vanderbilt
ACC
-Wake Forest
-Boston College
Independent
-Air Force
On Par with ISU.
Big 12
-Kansas St
-WV
-Texas Tech (would be worse than ISU if not in Texas)
PAC 12
-Utah
Big 10
-Minnesota
-Maryland (only because they have underarmor $$, otherwise worse than ISU)
-Illinois
-Nebraska (mainly because of unrealistic expectations)
SEC
-Missouri (debatable)
ACC
-Duke (Probably worse job than ISU, but in an easier conference)
-Syracuse (does anybody even care about 'Cuse ball?)
-Pittsburgh (they are good this year, but do their fans/facilities even compare?)
-Virginia
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The people that were the big Rhoads apologists are going to likely be the negative crowd going into next year.
I agree NO Recruiting Base(instate)...............and with all the high school football talent residing in Texas its really a tough job.........JP needs to hire someone, hell, anyone who can recruit Texas HS's like Gene Chizik. Especially if you hire a Spread Offense Coach, without recruiting better talent...we will be in for more 3 win seasons.
Yes it is one of the worst power conference jobs in the country but, on the other hand if Dan McCarney can win 9 games in one season so can other good coaches.
Go Cyclones Beat the Tar Outta West VA
I think we can be successful, and I'm looking forward to seeing where our future will go, but we are a legit bottom 10 P5 coaching job, don't kid yourselves.
Hopefully we find the guy that can overcome our disadvantages and make us successful.
Hopefully we find the guy that can overcome our disadvantages and make us successful.
and the people who hate Rhoads were hoping they'd lose.
I just hope that any success the new coach had his first 4 years is attributed solely to Rhoads just like everyone attributed any of Rhoads success to chizik. What's fair one way is fair another.
Thanks for putting this together - while some can be debated ISU is not the bottom feeder most make it out to be.
I Agree and those Squawkeyes are getting ready to LOSE to Nebraska...U heard it here 1st.
Go Cyclones Beat thee Mountain Men
CPR coached here for 7 years, lost double the games he won and is walking out of here with 20 million in the bank. People out there talking about North Texas or whatever being a better coaching gig are whacked out of their mind. 20 million bucks....let that sink in.
Iowa high schools aren't loaded with talent but I think its' better than some give it credit for. Seems like it was 10-20 years ago when one of the good central Iowa teams played one of the power KC teams and beat them easily. A coach at ISU also cannot overlook or so badly misjudge talent in his own back yard like a David Johnson or Josey Jewell who can be difference makers to your program. The fact that we play several games in Texas and Oklahoma every year is also a recruiting plus we have over schools around us like Iowa, Missouri and Nebraska. We may not get the cream of the crop but maybe we could become the northern school of choice for those athletes that get overlooked or dont' want to stay in Texas for whatever reason.