You can win at Football at ISU

[CyAGR]

Earl Bruce dd it for 3 years, 40 years ago. Earl Bruce isn't evidence of anything.

I would have to respectfully disagree with you . Earle Bruce is only 1'of 2 coaches that came in here with any prior proven success. Since then we have hired Jim Criner who also had a prior winning record at Boise State , was busted at BSU for cheating and then fired from ISU for cheating. Walden was 44 - 55 -2 at Washington State and lost here. All other coaches since Earle Bruce have been unproven assistants. Maybe it's time to change our hiring practices and hire a coach with a winning record prior to landing in Ames.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I'm sorry, you cannot just discount the innate disadvantages that Iowa State has, though. Small state with another, better program in it. Very little tradition. Bad weather. Comparatively small revenue and budget. Those aren't nothing. Poor to average coaching certainly is part of the reason, but it's not the whole reason. We're not a hidden gem. We're not a power in waiting. We could get Vince Lombardi, himself, as our coach, and he'd still need some luck to have success here.

He has a point. How many coaches have we had that have done anything anywhere else? One. We've had one.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Uh, as with any school, you have to have the right coach. Alabama (remember Mike Shula?), Michigan (RichRod and Hoke) and now Texas have found that out.
Pitt for one has the right coach. Are you really calling Pitt "mediocre?" Come on.

Since 2010:

2010: 8-5
2011: 6-7
2012: 6-7
2013: 7-6
2014: 6-7
2015: 8-3

Yep, that's pretty much mediocre, especially considering the joke of a conference they play in - and yet I'd kill for that 6-year record compared to ours.

 

[bosco]

This program is a sleeping giant. It just needs the right guy leading it. If the wins come the fanbase will raise it to unbelievable heights.

 

[BigJ4CY]

It's probably one of the five worst jobs in the P5 conferences. it is undoubtedly better in terms of facilities and fan support than it was twenty years ago, but so are most other schools. The bottom line is Iowa Stte is unlikely to get a hot shot coordinator or a head coach that has torn it up at a mid-major school. You're going to have to find someone that is not on the radar of other P5 programs (similar to Fran at Iowa) and hope that he can recruit enough players.

We have apparently attracted good coaches in the past who were interested in the job. We just didn't pick the guy who could turn things around. Hopefully this time they pick the right guy.

 

[Mr Janny]

This program is a sleeping giant. It just needs the right guy leading it. If the wins come the fanbase will raise it to unbelievable heights.

no, it isn't.
look, I love ISU, but this kind of statement is ridiculous. I wish that it were the case, but it's not. ISU has great fans, but there just aren't enough of them for us to ever be a giant, not unless the state of Iowa starts rocketing up the population charts.

 

[Rabbuk]

no, it isn't.
look, I love ISU, but this kind of statement is ridiculous. I wish that it were the case, but it's not. ISU has great fans, but there just aren't enough of them for us to ever be a giant, not unless the state of Iowa starts rocketing up the population charts.

Oregon has 800k more people than we do. We have a lot of things working against us, not sure that population is the biggest.

 

[Mr Janny]

Oregon has 800k more people than we do. We have a lot of things working against us, not sure that population is the biggest.

Oregon also has Phil Knight willing that team into relevance, overcoming their limitations with cash and exposure. If we had our own Phil Knight, I'd agree with you. We don't.

 

[Rabbuk]

Oregon also has Phil Knight willing that team into relevance, overcoming their limitations with cash and exposure. If we had our own Phil Knight, I'd agree with you. We don't.

Sounds like you're saying what I am saying

 

[Rabbuk]

Oregon also has Phil Knight willing that team into relevance, overcoming their limitations with cash and exposure. If we had our own Phil Knight, I'd agree with you. We don't.

Oklahoma as a state has 800k more people than us. South Carolina, 1 million more.

 

[Mr Janny]

Sounds like you're saying what I am saying

I'm saying that in the absence of some Daddy Warbucks figure descending from on high, to force ISU into prominence via cash and exposure, we're faced with being a school with a small, but fiercely loyal fanbase, that will take considerable time and luck to even catch up with the other school in our small state, let alone to be considered a "giant."

 

[Rabbuk]

I'm saying that in the absence of some Daddy Warbucks figure descending from on high, to force ISU into prominence via cash and exposure, we're faced with being a school with a small, but fiercely loyal fanbase, that will take considerable time and luck to even catch up with the other school in our small state, let alone to be considered a "giant."

Agreed. I'm wondering what makes us so different than Clemson other than Climate. Who is there Daddy Warbucks?

 

[Mr Janny]

Agreed. I'm wondering what makes us so different than Clemson other than Climate. Who is there Daddy Warbucks?

Clemson already did their dirtywork, years ago. They've been relevant for years and years and years. They don't have the same path as us because they're already on top of the mountain. Getting there and staying there are two vastly different things.

 

[bosco]

no, it isn't.
look, I love ISU, but this kind of statement is ridiculous. I wish that it were the case, but it's not. ISU has great fans, but there just aren't enough of them for us to ever be a giant, not unless the state of Iowa starts rocketing up the population charts.

I'm a Cyclone fan so to me a giant is a team that wins 8 games a year. What were you thinking? Alabama like? That's so far out there conceptually my tiny Cyclone brain can't process it. It would be like winning a billion dollars.

 

[DrT]

That's JUST NOT TRUE! Please either quit living in the past or shut up about it!

It's probably one of the five worst jobs in the P5 conferences. it is undoubtedly better in terms of facilities and fan support than it was twenty years ago, but so are most other schools. The bottom line is Iowa Stte is unlikely to get a hot shot coordinator or a head coach that has torn it up at a mid-major school. You're going to have to find someone that is not on the radar of other P5 programs (similar to Fran at Iowa) and hope that he can recruit enough players.

 

[19clone91]

Just remember ISU SHOULD have beat Alabama in 2001. My how times can change, and quickly.