WWJD- What Will Jamie Do?
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I find the lack of knowledge in this thread remarkable....Archie Miller would look seriously at this job in a heart beat. Last I checked his salary was $650k a year. He could quadruple that here. There are a hell of a lot of really good coaches who I would hope to God JP would reach out to with a $2-$3 mil a year offer. Brad Underwood at SFA is a really good coach dude makes $350k a year. Jerod Haase won't be at UAB in two years, he's young, a rising star of sorts and just kicked our *** last I checked. He makes about $500k a year. Heck Chris Mack at Xavier would make a great hire IMO. Guy can recruit. He makes around $1 mil a year.
as for Hornacek..yea might be a long shot but he's gone after next year maybe sooner. He won't get another NBA HC gig so he's either relegated as an asst. in the NBA or goes to college or just retires.
You take a look at some of the salaries I just mentioned and you actually think that TJ will be the HC of a top 15 program making more than most of them at age 37 with ZERO experience as a HC? If true, JP has completely packed it in and is just coasting or has another job or career lined up himself. I think JP learned his lesson as to what happens when u hire your BFFs to run a major program(CPR) it gets increasingly more difficult to fire your BFF and things go to pot.
Aint Happening.
edit: Archie was extended thru 2022, so his new salary might make it tough to buyout. That's the other problem in all this, whoever we go get we are going to have to pony up to buyout the contract and buyout CPR and all the staff contract next season too. So my entire post was for naught as we simply don't have the money to do both. TJ it is for $600k a year.
as for Hornacek..yea might be a long shot but he's gone after next year maybe sooner. He won't get another NBA HC gig so he's either relegated as an asst. in the NBA or goes to college or just retires.
You take a look at some of the salaries I just mentioned and you actually think that TJ will be the HC of a top 15 program making more than most of them at age 37 with ZERO experience as a HC? If true, JP has completely packed it in and is just coasting or has another job or career lined up himself. I think JP learned his lesson as to what happens when u hire your BFFs to run a major program(CPR) it gets increasingly more difficult to fire your BFF and things go to pot.
Aint Happening.
edit: Archie was extended thru 2022, so his new salary might make it tough to buyout. That's the other problem in all this, whoever we go get we are going to have to pony up to buyout the contract and buyout CPR and all the staff contract next season too. So my entire post was for naught as we simply don't have the money to do both. TJ it is for $600k a year.
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If you are actually making the argument that there is better value than Fred on the market right now and we should let him go, you have lost your marbles. Fred is valuable to us. PERIOD. The fact is he needs to get a hard offer from JP and extend as far as this university can pony up.
No I wasnt. Was respending to those who think we can't go get a mid major coach. I want Fred to stay.
Correct. We don't know. We can safely know that the ISU Administration is doing everything possible to continue the basketball success story. ISU has 14,300 fans that pack Hilton. That's special. ISU has a successful past and present: Orr, Floyd, Eustachy and Hoiberg. That's undeniable. ISU has a committed fan base. Think of home football game attendance. President Leath won't allow the men's basketball team to backslide. The Administration is committed to sports due to the fund raising possibilities and necessities. ISU has an in-state rival that will always keep us on edge and fired up. That's special. Illinois, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Minnesota and many more can't match our schedules for intensity and competitiveness. Please add more. We have a lot to sell. Don't sell us short. .
Thank you. I think there is a small minority of people here on this forum that have moved on from Fred. He's my coach unless he says no, and I'm glad to see people agree. I trust Jamie will do what he can and has to in order to keep Fred here. However, let's not worry about the next coach, but how do we keep this coach.
Removing the "buyout dilemma" portion for the time being, your main point is: Will JP choose to "cheap-out" with the goal of continuity/consistency and potential loyalty/longevity? Or offer serious money for a proven track record with attempt to build on this resurgence? Or (part 2) pay somewhere in the range of current salary for unproven coach?
TJO could prove to be exactly what works, and if Pollard seriously thinks that's the smart path, have at it. I just hope it's not a decision made with an assumption it's "the only possibility." And if he goes that route, with a modest salary to start, it needs to be incentive-driven and no insanely long contract extension after one good season with a hand-me-down, loaded roster.
And then when Fred doesn't finish in the Top 5 or Top 10 every year, we will get "What was Jamie Pollard thinking??" threads about how he overpaid Hoiberg. Look at Ferentz, Iowa did the same thing and overpaid for Kirk and now look where they are at.
1st bold: Check again
2nd bold: I have heard absolutely ZERO buzz about Jerod Haase from anyone other than delusional ISU fan that is incapable of any kind of total picture retrospective view or any kind of ability to look forward more than one possession.
Maybe you should check your facts before telling someone else to check again. If you google "Archie Miller salary", you'll find he's right. Archie makes $652,049. If Fred goes, Archie is the guy I want to take over.
Fixed it. He MADE that last year. He signed a giant increase (some said doubling-tripling his salary) this offseason.
Link for bolded?
There isn't one because it isn't true. And if you have to make crap up to prove a point, you have a pretty weak point. Or no point at all.
You guys are all assuming that these mid-major coaches would want to come here so if it doesn't happen, it must be that JP didn't try or is going with status quo. Nevermind they may not want to come here. Just jump to the negative conclusion.
Whoever JP hires, it will be the coach he thinks is the best for ISU. The dude is committed to ISU. He isn't going to hire or not hire anyone to prove a point, for loyalty, etc. He is going to hire the best candidate he can and support them however he can so they can be successful. That has been his M.O. from day one.
Whoever JP hires, it will be the coach he thinks is the best for ISU. The dude is committed to ISU. He isn't going to hire or not hire anyone to prove a point, for loyalty, etc. He is going to hire the best candidate he can and support them however he can so they can be successful. That has been his M.O. from day one.
It's hard to believe that in this case since insiders on here have been advocating for TJ.
I am sure the returning players would not after watching his Dayton teams play.
The new hire will be a little bit tricky. ISU has an "all in" type of season next year. Style of play and tempo will be important to ISU maximizing next year's results. While normally, you take the best coach available but next year I think you have to make a selection that plays to next years strengths. Otherwise all we ever hear about is future, future, future and there is never a realization of the future.