I'll move on on Morgan when people quit slandering his tenure here with half truths/lies, rumors, and opinions that just aren't rooted in the facts. He did nothing wrong or illegal here either on or off the court. His only player that got in trouble (George) was kicked off the team before anybody even knew what he did. He recruited good kids and raised the team gpa from the LE years. He had winning records, had 4 post season wins (maybe more if JP lobbies for an NIT game in year 3) and beat 4 top ten teams at home and on the road. His teams played good defense his first two years when we had Homan and Staple, and they played a fast entertaining game. And the guy is almost 60 years old and maybe he doesn't want to start over someplace else in another coaching gig. Please quit slandering Morgan and his coaching style when he took over in a terrible situation and gave us some good years. But somehow I'm sure we'll be going over this all over again down the road.
Why was Wayne Morgan fired?
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I too don't understand why people want to rip Morgan so bad. He wasn't an awesome coach, but he did ok, and although his tenure was frustrating, I can't say it was more than other years. There may be much more to his firing than I know about, but from the surface, it doesn't look that way. Can't we just remember his time as a nice bridge period where we had a deep NIT run and a 2nd round NCAA year?
I just hope the bridge doesn't lead to nowhere, or we'll have to cross it again soon.
Yeah, that is the reason I think things are so crazy. People want to tear down Morgan to show how bad the situation is to give Greg more time. I think we should give Greg more time, but not because of Morgan. The way Morgan left was ugly and I will give people that.
I hope Greg succeeds in spades, but we don't have to trample Morgan to hope for that.
Morgan took the job when no one wanted, and had some success, but I think he lacked any ability to maintain and grow a program long term.
If you will agree with me that McDermot has proved to be a decent recruiter and has just had to battle to much player attrition, but you argue that Wayne had more success, I have to ask: What do you think GMac's record would be if he had Morgan's players from 2006?
Blalock
Carr
Stinson
Clark
A. Davis
Hubalek
Taggart
Gray
Marsden
I think Mac is a better coach, fundamentally especially. I also think he is an adequate recruiter for ISU's needs. I think we can agree that if Brackins is back for at least one more year the program is moving in an upward direction.
He's been dealt some tough blows, but don't let the previous frustrations lead to new frustrations such as constantly bickering about how horrible of a coach he is. He obviously isn't a horrible coach. His coaching and talent on hand haven't lead to victories...yet.
If you will agree with me that McDermot has proved to be a decent recruiter and has just had to battle to much player attrition, but you argue that Wayne had more success, I have to ask: What do you think GMac's record would be if he had Morgan's players from 2006?
Blalock
Carr
Stinson
Clark
A. Davis
Hubalek
Taggart
Gray
Marsden
I think Mac is a better coach, fundamentally especially. I also think he is an adequate recruiter for ISU's needs. I think we can agree that if Brackins is back for at least one more year the program is moving in an upward direction.
He's been dealt some tough blows, but don't let the previous frustrations lead to new frustrations such as constantly bickering about how horrible of a coach he is. He obviously isn't a horrible coach. His coaching and talent on hand haven't lead to victories...yet.
Let me say that I think Greg has done a fine job recruiting and hopefully we start to see some major results. He was dealt a horrible blow with WJ leaving. I just would like to see people look back a little more respectfully at Morgan's tenure here.
Come on...they are just a bunch of Dirtbags...oh, sorry, my bad...we are talking basketball here not baseball.:wink:
I sense a little disrespect here for Dwayne (sp?) Schintzius (sp?) here...he and his mullet were UF BB back in the day!
I sense a little disrespect here for Dwayne (sp?) Schintzius (sp?) here...he and his mullet were UF BB back in the day!
He was also good at throwing girlfriends through car windsheilds... Don't forget Mad Max, Vernon Maxwell a proud alum my High School
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I think he was fired so he could fulfill his destiny, which is selling satellites.
Who is he selling satellites to in central Iowa? That would be neat to have my own satellite...how much do they cost?
I happen to think Geoffroy is a pretty good President who understands the importance of athletics in the institution's mission.
So we should do what OSU does? From what I remember there was a little more to the LE thing than just drinking...can anyone say "lecherous old man". Oh, and he only admitted to his alcoholism after the writing was on the wall. Had he been told to go to AA and that he was getting a pay cut he would have likely continued on in denial about his problem.
The bottom line is that the LE "affair" was one of the biggest public black eyes to ISU in modern history...you would be shocked how many people far from ISU know nothing about the school save for that one thing.
He was also good at throwing girlfriends through car windsheilds... Don't forget Mad Max, Vernon Maxwell a proud alum my High School
I had totally forgotten about Maxwell...great talent but one wild guy. Norm Sloan coached those guys at UF...right?
Good post...also overlooked is the fact that Gene Smith wrote 2 weeks of due process into LE's contract which meant that Geoffroy and BVD could not fire him untill that time had expired or pay him $10 million. LE and his lawyers used that time to mount a publicity campaign built around "I am an alcolholic give me a 2nd chance." ISU handled it the best they could considering how the Rag and Witosky built it up. The due process should have been 48 hours not 2 weeks.