Should have been a flag and the ******* should have been thrown out of the game!!!
Watch your backs against NU!
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Should have been a flag and the ******* should have been thrown out of the game!!!
NOT illegal, Here is a frame by frame illustration of how far Gabbert drops from the time Osborne starts his tackle to when he hits him. See Gabbert's legs spread to duck, see how far his head drops while Osborne stays even on his line to Gabbert.
You want to continue to say it is illegal then you lose all credibility in any further or prior responses.
Gabbert is looking straight at him, he starts to duck... how do you call this anything but? He is pulling the ball down, he drops his body's profile to absorb a hit, he isn't defenseless. Osborne cannot be expected to make his adjustment to avoid it when he is going for Gabbert's chest. WHY wasn't it called? Because Gabbert makes an effort to move out of the way and absorb the hit. He isn't defenseless at that point which is the point of the rule. He isn't targeting at the shoulder or higher... if he DID target there Gabbert's head would have ended up in Osborne's belly. As it is, Gabbert lowers himself into the hit and actually CAUSES the helmets to hit.
This is why the Big 12 will do nothing about it.
Interesting that the nebraska players leg is bent as he is pushing off his foot (i.e. at the low point of his stride) in the first two frames and both feet are off the ground in the last frame. Watch the video, the Missouri player in no way, shape, or form ducked into the hit. You are a desperate clown, go away.
NOT illegal, Here is a frame by frame illustration of how far Gabbert drops from the time Osborne starts his tackle to when he hits him. See Gabbert's legs spread to duck, see how far his head drops while Osborne stays even on his line to Gabbert.
You want to continue to say it is illegal then you lose all credibility in any further or prior responses.
Gabbert is looking straight at him, he starts to duck... how do you call this anything but? He is pulling the ball down, he drops his body's profile to absorb a hit, he isn't defenseless. Osborne cannot be expected to make his adjustment to avoid it when he is going for Gabbert's chest. WHY wasn't it called? Because Gabbert makes an effort to move out of the way and absorb the hit. He isn't defenseless at that point which is the point of the rule. He isn't targeting at the shoulder or higher... if he DID target there Gabbert's head would have ended up in Osborne's belly. As it is, Gabbert lowers himself into the hit and actually CAUSES the helmets to hit.
This is why the Big 12 will do nothing about it.
- As others have noted, Gabbert was setting up to throw and that caused the majority of his level drop. If you take the above frame by frame and look at it with the video, you can see that in frames 2 and 3 at the last .1 of a second his legs bend to make a move and that is the last drop
- I would like to draw your attention to the last two frames of your frame by frame. Take a look at the angle of Osbournes helmet. There is no doubt that his chin is lowered and he leads more with the top of his helmet and not his facemask.
You do understand that you are not going to convince anyone in the country that isn't a Nebraska fan that was a legal hit? Osborne could have easily lowered his shoulder and put a helmet on the ball forcing the fumble. Instead he stays upright and puts his helmet into the QB's helmet, which is ILLEGAL!!!!! It's really not that difficult to understand.
Well, I am glad I was able to actually get a little activity on this board... HA!
And I am not trolling trying to start something, but I will defend a bunch of BS about a player that is brought up by some random fan whose team is barely breathing (aTm)
And I always thought ISU fans were some of the better fans out there, having seen the MIZZOU fans the last week I thought nobody could be as overtly blind and acid filled with their posts and opinions of a fricking school and football team... esp. ISU fans...
Sorry to say the internet BS that has turned good discussion and banter into a bunch of anger and childishness has found its way into your fanbase too. There are Husker fans the same way and it is embarrassing.
Enjoy your week... enjoy pregame... but after that... well...
Guess I will leave you all to trash the Huskers and chase away more fans looking for good discussions. Enjoy the trash.
And I am not trolling trying to start something, but I will defend a bunch of BS about a player that is brought up by some random fan whose team is barely breathing (aTm)
And I always thought ISU fans were some of the better fans out there, having seen the MIZZOU fans the last week I thought nobody could be as overtly blind and acid filled with their posts and opinions of a fricking school and football team... esp. ISU fans...
Sorry to say the internet BS that has turned good discussion and banter into a bunch of anger and childishness has found its way into your fanbase too. There are Husker fans the same way and it is embarrassing.
Enjoy your week... enjoy pregame... but after that... well...
Guess I will leave you all to trash the Huskers and chase away more fans looking for good discussions. Enjoy the trash.
Dude you need to take off your Husker colored glasses and look at this with some objectivity. That was an illegal hit not matter which way you want to try to spin it. First off Osborne shouldn't have been leading with the crown of his helmet so regardless if Gabbert reacted and dropped down a couple of inches it should have been a spearing penalty. Your pretty illustration shows that perfectly, he dropped his head and lead with the crown. Next your reaction argument holds no water because if he was using proper technique and fundamentals he wouldn't have been near Gabberts head (regardless of how much he "dropped down") because he aiming point should have been at his waist while getting his head to the side. He is going to break his neck if that is how he was taught how to tackle. A penalty should have been called plain and simple and then another penalty should have been called for his little celebration he did after giving a player a concussion. You kept calling everyone else out saying they need to be objective when you are the only one that has a bias here. I (as a Cyclone fan) could care less if that was called or not so I have the objective look at it, not you.
Bottom line is it wasn't called but is should have been and the Big 12 should have given Mizzou an apology (privately) for missing it.
I just hope we can give Martinez around 4 of these "legal" hits in the first quarter.
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I'm not an engineer, be even I can see that your use of the frame pictures are absurd. You aren't taking in account the angle of the camera, and for Christ sakes, the frames aren't even the same size but your drawing lines through them.NOT illegal, Here is a frame by frame illustration of how far Gabbert drops from the time Osborne starts his tackle to when he hits him. See Gabbert's legs spread to duck, see how far his head drops while Osborne stays even on his line to Gabbert.
You want to continue to say it is illegal then you lose all credibility in any further or prior responses.
Gabbert is looking straight at him, he starts to duck... how do you call this anything but? He is pulling the ball down, he drops his body's profile to absorb a hit, he isn't defenseless. Osborne cannot be expected to make his adjustment to avoid it when he is going for Gabbert's chest. WHY wasn't it called? Because Gabbert makes an effort to move out of the way and absorb the hit. He isn't defenseless at that point which is the point of the rule. He isn't targeting at the shoulder or higher... if he DID target there Gabbert's head would have ended up in Osborne's belly. As it is, Gabbert lowers himself into the hit and actually CAUSES the helmets to hit.
This is why the Big 12 will do nothing about it.
Doesn't matter if he ducked or what ever you claim. Still helmet to helmet/illegal
That picture is taken from above and is deceptive because of that. It shows the player farther from the action as being higher than the one closer. Look at the video again.
From article in Lincoln paper: Of the hit on Gabbert, Martin said he felt Osborne “did it for me.â€
Martin was the one that was suspended for the hit on an Oklahoma State player.
Martin plans no style changes - Omaha.com
Yes it is obvious by your post in the other thread
"WOW.... those are some doozies! I feel shame for being Husker fan now... I think the 80's called and want their lame slogans back. Go to the Texas board and learn how to write smack. "
You were not coming here to start anything.
. Then you call people out by saying EVERYONE calls Nebraska villians. Now you run away claiming to be the victim. Newsflash...this is why people don't like Nebraska fans like you.
Is that why several very obvious facemasks on the quarterback no less in critical situations were not called? Yeah the Big 12 officials are out to get Nebraska. Also did running out of the shotgun formation on first and second down from the 1/2 yard line remind anyone of a former coaching staff of ours
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NOT illegal, Here is a frame by frame illustration of how far Gabbert drops from the time Osborne starts his tackle to when he hits him. See Gabbert's legs spread to duck, see how far his head drops while Osborne stays even on his line to Gabbert.
You want to continue to say it is illegal then you lose all credibility in any further or prior responses.
Gabbert is looking straight at him, he starts to duck... how do you call this anything but? He is pulling the ball down, he drops his body's profile to absorb a hit, he isn't defenseless. Osborne cannot be expected to make his adjustment to avoid it when he is going for Gabbert's chest. WHY wasn't it called? Because Gabbert makes an effort to move out of the way and absorb the hit. He isn't defenseless at that point which is the point of the rule. He isn't targeting at the shoulder or higher... if he DID target there Gabbert's head would have ended up in Osborne's belly. As it is, Gabbert lowers himself into the hit and actually CAUSES the helmets to hit.
This is why the Big 12 will do nothing about it.
You can see in the last frame how the defender lowered his head and hit with the crown of his helmet. That is what makes it cleary an illegal hit. As for Gabbert's alleged duck, it doesn't matter. The way the rules are written, even if this is true, it is the defenders resposibility. I don't necessarily agree with that, but it is how the rules are written. Leading with the helmet as shown in these photos is not and should not be legal.
Looks to me like his arms are extended back when he comes forward with his head, which constitutes leading with his head. And it doesn't matter whether Gabbert came down into the hit - it doesn't change the fact that #12 went "head-to-head" with him. Even unintentional illegal hits are still illegal hits.
How are we going to enjoy the trash if you are leaving?
Husker fan taking his ball and going home. sure hope you can hold onto it unlike your football team last year!!!!!!