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jl112481 said:
Just watched the video. Clearly an illegal hit. I won't say that it is intentional, but still illegal. Personally I disagree that Gabbert ducked. I don't even think he saw the hit coming until just prior to the hit. Watch his helmet. He is looking down field until the defender is about 5 feet away from Gabbert.
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Clearly an illegal hit? Gabbert didn't duck? OK, either you didn't watch with objectivity or you simply don't want to admit it.

Gabbert's helmet level drops a full helmet's worth of height, Osborne NEVER changes his angle. All of this occurs in the span of less than a second. If Osborne is plannign on hitting his chest and Gabbert drops, Osborne will never be flagged. You can't hit a QB low, you can't hit him high. If he ducks you are screwed as a DB and all I will say is the other teams out there, you are just a likely to find your team in a similar position... beware spouting off about this play because you WILl see it happen to your player eventually... then you will be changing your tune pretty quickly.
 
I would gladly side with aTm fans over Bugeater fans every day of the week. Great peeps. Hope you guys have got a little of your swagger back.
 
RightwingerNU said:
Why wouldn't a fan come to the defense of a player when a fan from a completely different team come sto a board of the team you play this week and starts throwing out false representations of a player or organization? I would hope you would do the same if the roles were reversed.
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What's funny is this thread had very few responses and would have been buried if you wouldn't have responded. Next time hit the "quote" button and then we will know you are only talking to the Aggie fan. Otherwise when you say things like

"Go ahead and make villains of the NU team, everyone will do it all year... no surprise.
But maybe try looking without the "I hate the Huskers for leaving the Big 12" glasses... of course that is asking to much for you all but give it a try anyway. I know you wont admit you are wrong."

You lead people to believe the world is out to get you. :cry::cry: Waaaaaaah.

And I don't troll on others boards trying to get responses out of opposing teams so I would not have to defend any actions.
 
Watch at 1:14 to see the best view of the hit.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfYxKRR2Wl4]YouTube - Nebraska vs. Missouri 2010 Courtney Osborne Sacks Gabbert, Refs Blow Fumble Call[/ame]
 
Huskers are poor sports, but not dirty.

Hard to learn sportsmanship from a staff who bawls like a 4th grader "you should be ashamed to accept that trophy"... or even shake hands after a 9-7 loss. I used to have respect for NU but they're program has been taken over by classless jerks.
 
RightwingerNU said:
Clearly an illegal hit? Gabbert didn't duck? OK, either you didn't watch with objectivity or you simply don't want to admit it.

Gabbert's helmet level drops a full helmet's worth of height, Osborne NEVER changes his angle. All of this occurs in the span of less than a second. If Osborne is plannign on hitting his chest and Gabbert drops, Osborne will never be flagged. You can't hit a QB low, you can't hit him high. If he ducks you are screwed as a DB and all I will say is the other teams out there, you are just a likely to find your team in a similar position... beware spouting off about this play because you WILl see it happen to your player eventually... then you will be changing your tune pretty quickly.
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Are you still mad about this?
Texas vs. Nebraska - Box Score - October 16, 2010 - College Football - SI.com
 
RightwingerNU said:
Sorry, when did I ever say such a thing? You want to claim the whole fanbase says that? Go ahead, doesn't surprise me. It has become the cliche comment about NU this year. Too bad you all fall into the talking points others make up and don't use rational thought for yourself.
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Did I say you said that? Had I been responding to you, I would have quoted you. I said "Husker fan" as in the hundreds of idiots that I listen to at work, at the store, on the local radio shows, etc. around Omaha that are spouting this line.

But go ahead and act like no one is saying it, just makes you look like a bigger moron than you already appear to be in this thread.
 
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Obvious illegal hit. Gabbert did NOT drop his head, he didn't even see the defender until he was right there and didn't have any time to react. The Fusker player was head hunting, it was clear. If he would have tackled properly he probably could have forced a fumble.
 
RightwingerNU said:
Clearly an illegal hit? Gabbert didn't duck? OK, either you didn't watch with objectivity or you simply don't want to admit it.

Gabbert's helmet level drops a full helmet's worth of height, Osborne NEVER changes his angle. All of this occurs in the span of less than a second. If Osborne is plannign on hitting his chest and Gabbert drops, Osborne will never be flagged. You can't hit a QB low, you can't hit him high. If he ducks you are screwed as a DB and all I will say is the other teams out there, you are just a likely to find your team in a similar position... beware spouting off about this play because you WILl see it happen to your player eventually... then you will be changing your tune pretty quickly.
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I'm not going to get into an argument over this. I had nothing to say about it until you came on our board and started "spouting" off about it. I would use your own advice about watching the video with an unbiased eye. You seem to be the emotional one here. In regards to the duck, I assume you are aware of a QB's foot work? Go to 1:20 of the video. Gabbert is not ducking, he has his feet spread more than shoulders width preparing to throw the ball. Having his feet spread is what is creating the "ducking" effect and why the hit was helmet to helmet. Also, as I just said it was a "helmet to helmet" hit which is an illegal hit.

So I stand by what I said: Clearly illegal (maybe not intentional), Gabbert did not duck. Maybe you should watch it in slow mo like I did.
 
It would've been a fine and suspension in the NFL, not to mention a penalty in the game. Can't believe it wasn't called.

Not to mention the hard facemask Gabbert took a little bit earlier near the goal-line partly responsible for him not getting in the end zone, which was NOT called.
 
cstrunk said:
It would've been a fine and suspension in the NFL, not to mention a penalty in the game. Can't believe it wasn't called.

Not to mention the hard facemask Gabbert took near the goal-line partly responsible for him not getting in the end zone, which was NOT called.
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I would have called a 75 yard penalty against Nebraska and awarded Missouri with an automatic touchdown! ( I know, that's ridiculous, but so was the non-call).
 
aauummm said:
No doubt about it. Illegal hit with the helmet. I would have tossed Osborne out of the game and banned him from Big 12 competition for the rest of the season!
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NOT illegal, Here is a frame by frame illustration of how far Gabbert drops from the time Osborne starts his tackle to when he hits him. See Gabbert's legs spread to duck, see how far his head drops while Osborne stays even on his line to Gabbert.
You want to continue to say it is illegal then you lose all credibility in any further or prior responses.

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Gabbert is looking straight at him, he starts to duck... how do you call this anything but? He is pulling the ball down, he drops his body's profile to absorb a hit, he isn't defenseless. Osborne cannot be expected to make his adjustment to avoid it when he is going for Gabbert's chest. WHY wasn't it called? Because Gabbert makes an effort to move out of the way and absorb the hit. He isn't defenseless at that point which is the point of the rule. He isn't targeting at the shoulder or higher... if he DID target there Gabbert's head would have ended up in Osborne's belly. As it is, Gabbert lowers himself into the hit and actually CAUSES the helmets to hit.

This is why the Big 12 will do nothing about it.
 
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RightwingerNU said:
You don't classify spearing when you hit with your facemask.... that comes with the crown of the helmet.

No he wouldn't have hit him in the side of the helmet. Watch the video. Osborne never changed his angle of attack. It was after Gabbert dropped to duck that the level of the two helmets matched. If Gabbert didn't squat, he gets hit in the chest ut Osbornes facemask. Not a spear. There is a photo of a Missou player doing just that to Martinez though. Top of the helmet spearing TM near the neck. THAT is spearing.
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After watching the video, Gabbert does not duck, drop to duck, or squat. His head does change levels, but it is the result of transferring weight in his stance.

Osborne did not change his angle, but the contact made is illegal. Doesn't matter where you think the contact would have been, it matters where it was. That being said, I don't think it was a dirty play, just illegal.
 
RightwingerNU said:
NOT illegal, Here is a frame by frame illustration of how far Gabbert drops from the time Osborne starts his tackle to when he hits him. See Gabbert's legs spread to duck, see how far his head drops while Osborne stays even on his line to Gabbert.
You want to continue to say it is illegal then you lose all credibility in any further or prior responses.

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Lose credibility with you? Now you've really got me worried! Osborne clearly has the last opportunity to avoid a helmet-to-helmet spear and he didn't-case closed.
 
CycloneChris said:
After watching the video, Gabbert does not duck, drop to duck, or squat. His head does change levels, but it is the result of transferring weight in his stance.

Osborne did not change his angle, but the contact made is illegal. Doesn't matter where you think the contact would have been, it matters where it was. That being said, I don't think it was a dirty play, just illegal.
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This. How about Gabbert staying in the game? Tough SOB
 
CarolinaCy said:
Did I say you said that? Had I been responding to you, I would have quoted you. I said "Husker fan" as in the hundreds of idiots that I listen to at work, at the store, on the local radio shows, etc. around Omaha that are spouting this line.

But go ahead and act like no one is saying it, just makes you look like a bigger moron than you already appear to be in this thread.
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rightwinger doesn't understand the concept of a quote button.
 
aauummm said:
Lose credibility with you? Now you've really got me worried! Osborne clearly has the last opportunity to avoid a helmet-to-helmet spear and he didn't-case closed.
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Those frames I posted are literally 1 1/2 steps.... look at Osborne's feet,

You are telling me it is physiically possible for Osborne to change his trajectory on a standing target FULL SPEED over the course of 1 1/2 steps... assuming you can even register Gabbert's movement in that space of time and THEN alter your body mass in literally a fraction of a second. Gabbert can duck faster than a player running full speed can alter his angle of hit.

You are a moron if you think that is possible given the physics of the sport.
 
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