I'd just like to see some games other than 9 Big 12, UNI, and Iowa. That leaves ONE new team every year. And with home-and-home arrangements we see the same teams all the time.
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I get this and all, but does anyone else see the problem of celebrating being nearly .500 aganst a team?
They have a lot more to lose than we do by losing the game.
They have a lot to lose playing most of their games because they play so many bad teams.
didyou notice we beat you and dropped in the polls?? Point madeThey have a lot more to lose than we do by losing the game.
We are the worse one probably. I don't know if we would beat Northwestern or Rutgers at this point.
didyou notice we beat you and dropped in the polls?? Point made
I'm totally for axing the UNI game but Iowa is a fellow P5 school. We don't really lose anything other than maybe bowl eligibility by playing them. The difference with UNI is that they are really two levels below us in football. It looks awful if we lose to them from the outside even if they are actually good. That isn't the case when it comes to Iowa.
On 1 poll-and you're not better than Miami of OhioYou moved up three spots Breck. Cmon man don't be this dumb on a Monday
On 1 poll-and you're not better than Miami of Ohio
I'm guessing aside from ku that Iowa is our best winning % in recent history. I have a hard time agreeing with those who are scared to play a team were routinely pretty competitive with. It's the same with the hawk fans who claim it's a lose-lose game for them, they're just making up excuses so they don't have to admit they can't handle losing to a rival.
According to Sagarin, Iowa State vs. Western Illinois is a toss-up on a neutral field.I think this is more of a drop UNI issue than a drop Iowa issue. I love the Iowa/Iowa State game, and generally I think it's a game we have a good chance to win. However, with an already tough conference schedule, and with Iowa on the schedule every year, our other two games need to be against the worst-of-the-worst. I'm not suggesting we shouldn't be able to easily beat UNI, we should, but it never seems to work out that way.
Honestly, the last game I can remember coming in to feeling absolutely convinced we would win was Western Illinois in 2012, and maybe a Kansas game here and there. We need more Western Illinois games.
Iowa is not Oklahoma or Ohio State or even many of the SEC teams. They are average and once every 10 years they will have a decent team. It is about our only rival left so we will continue to play them. There is no reason for that outcome to happen like it did Saturday, but CMC has a lot of work ahead the next few years to build a team to compete every week.
1) Iowa hardly compares to Oklahoma and Ohio State, correct.
2) In the Ferentz Era (1999-Present), Iowa has finished the season in the AP Top 10, five times (2002, 2003, 2004, 2009 and 2015). The 2008 Edition of the Iowa Hawkeyes (9-4) finished 20th in the AP. Hell, it's not much of a stretch to say the 2008 version of Iowa would be considered one of the best teams in the history of Iowa State Football (certainly on par with Iowa State's 1978 and 2000 teams).
Your definition of 'decent' warrants further explanation.
I agree but you could argue we already do. I think going forward conferences not named SEC are going to want members to have at least one P5 OOC game.Iowa States best shot at improving is scheduling 3 wins during non conference, there's no debating that. But Iowa State doesn't want to win.
1) Iowa hardly compares to Oklahoma and Ohio State, correct.
2) In the Ferentz Era (1999-Present), Iowa has finished the season in the AP Top 10, five times (2002, 2003, 2004, 2009 and 2015). The 2008 Edition of the Iowa Hawkeyes (9-4) finished 20th in the AP. Hell, it's not much of a stretch to say the 2008 version of Iowa would be considered one of the best teams in the history of Iowa State Football (certainly on par with Iowa State's 1978 and 2000 teams).
Your definition of 'decent' warrants further explanation.