Scheelhasse oc

[TDclones]

I'll know what kind of OC he is when we have our first 4th down and less than a yard. If we go shogun and snap it back 5 yards now needing 6 yards to get the first down, I won't be impressed. However, if we go under center, nut-up, put a hat on a hat and push our way to a first down, I'll have more respect!

 

[Freebird]

In most cases I would not like this move. When your offensive philosophy needs to be completely gutted and reinvented, you don't promote from within, you need a fresh perspective from outside the program.
In this case, I think it's worth a shot because Sheelhasse seems to have potential. Time will tell.
If it fails, Campbell will be fired and he knows it so he has faith in him succeeding.

 

[CascadeClone]

All comes down to the o-line

And we've been saying that for YEARS. Hopefully 2023 they get it right...

 

[cycfan1]

- Dominique Orange (maybe the best high school nose we have gotten in 20 years)
- Jaylin Noel (who has to play better to catch up with his hype)
- Carson Willich (very good young LB if you watched his play this year)
- Deshawn Hannika: our best TE this year and it wasn't close
- Jason Essex: highly rated 3 star TE from Kansas City
- Highly rated 3 star DE Ikenna Ezegou from KC (beat out KSU and a number of schools for)

From a recruiting standpoint I get this. He is an ace and you do need to keep an ACE young coach happy. Only a matter of time before Iowa loses Levar Woods for instance.

From a coaching standpoint. I am neutral on this b/c we have yet to see - is Campbell going to give full reigns and say "this is your chance as a P5 OC, I won't meddle, it is your system". Or does he meddle and make this harder for him? We will see.

I know one thing, I hope he has learned from Tom in that: you don't run 3 TE sets when you have subpar tight ends and a subpar fullback (which Rus was), you don't call 3 yard routes when it is 3rd and 7, you have to be creative in the run game department, and you need to play to the team's strengths. Regardless of who got this job, those are 'quick fixes' for me in that you just cut those out of the offense.

Oh - and it's time to get cutthroat on the Offensive Line Nobody who played last year has a starting role for April, everyone has to compete for jobs, new portal OL, get a juco, create competition b/c that absolutely has to get better.

Really making a name for himself in KC metro. KState coworkers were really high on him before they hired Klein. Given way he has worked KC metro certainly makes sense.

 

[Tpups21]

It's not about the X's and O's, it's about the Jimmies and Joes. Doesn't matter who calls the plays if the offensive line can't block.

 

[awd4cy]

Meh

 

[cydonk]

I'll know what kind of OC he is when we have our first 4th down and less than a yard. If we go shogun and snap it back 5 yards now needing 6 yards to get the first down, I won't be impressed. However, if we go under center, nut-up, put a hat on a hat and push our way to a first down, I'll have more respect!

tcu try it twice under center at the 1 yard line in over time that didnt work

 

[CascadeClone]

tcu try it twice under center at the 1 yard line in over time that didnt work

True, but they still handed it off 7 yards deep. Twice. Insane.

 

[Cy4Lifer]

I'll know what kind of OC he is when we have our first 4th down and less than a yard. If we go shogun and snap it back 5 yards now needing 6 yards to get the first down, I won't be impressed. However, if we go under center, nut-up, put a hat on a hat and push our way to a first down, I'll have more respect!

I think going “shogun” is a great idea! A whole new approach!

 

[CysDoc]

tcu try it twice under center at the 1 yard line in over time that didnt work

not qb sneak though

 

[Cy4Lifer]

A fierce Japanese style of offense!

 

[Cyrealist]

I don't get it. He may be a great coach. However, can't we afford to get a proven guy who has done it before? I mean we are a major program. Go get a guy with a proven offensive scheme. I mean if you think about it, Nate has been learning from Manning. Do we really want the understudy of the guy we just fired?

I agree I would prefer we went outside the program. That would signal a real commitment to change. We can hope for the best. If this guy is worth anything at all, he should only take the job if he gets the keys to control the entire offense.

 

[Dannynoonan]

Some guy named Breece Hall, never heard of him myself.

Jesus, it was an honest question.

 

[enisthemenace]

In most cases I would not like this move. When your offensive philosophy needs to be completely gutted and reinvented, you don't promote from within, you need a fresh perspective from outside the program.
In this case, I think it's worth a shot because Sheelhasse seems to have potential. Time will tell.
If it fails, Campbell will be fired and he knows it so he has faith in him succeeding.

I don’t know if I agree that the offensive philosophy needs to change all that much. I mean, ****…we move the ball.

Situational play calling was horrible, especially in the red zone (something like 127th in red zone efficiency this year), and our OL was not good.

 

[enisthemenace]

It's not about the X's and O's, it's about the Jimmies and Joes. Doesn't matter who calls the plays if the offensive line can't block.

Not entirely true.

 

[TDclones]

tcu try it twice under center at the 1 yard line in over time that didnt work

I'm not saying it's a guarantee when you go under center....I would rather try to get a 1/2 yard than 6!

 

[ozzie8]

Solid hire. I know it’s who the players were pulling for. He’s a good coach

 

[Cyrealist]

It's not about the X's and O's, it's about the Jimmies and Joes. Doesn't matter who calls the plays if the offensive line can't block.

I disagree. In the Big XII this year we weren't facing Alabama-level defenses. If our play design and blocking schemes were well-designed, we should have been able to run the ball effectively. The defense gets it done. Do we have monumentally more talent on defense?

 

[Dannynoonan]

- Dominique Orange (maybe the best high school nose we have gotten in 20 years)
- Jaylin Noel (who has to play better to catch up with his hype)
- Carson Willich (very good young LB if you watched his play this year)
- Deshawn Hannika: our best TE this year and it wasn't close
- Jason Essex: highly rated 3 star TE from Kansas City
- Highly rated 3 star DE Ikenna Ezegou from KC (beat out KSU and a number of schools for)

From a recruiting standpoint I get this. He is an ace and you do need to keep an ACE young coach happy. Only a matter of time before Iowa loses Levar Woods for instance.

From a coaching standpoint. I am neutral on this b/c we have yet to see - is Campbell going to give full reigns and say "this is your chance as a P5 OC, I won't meddle, it is your system". Or does he meddle and make this harder for him? We will see.

I know one thing, I hope he has learned from Tom in that: you don't run 3 TE sets when you have subpar tight ends and a subpar fullback (which Rus was), you don't call 3 yard routes when it is 3rd and 7, you have to be creative in the run game department, and you need to play to the team's strengths. Regardless of who got this job, those are 'quick fixes' for me in that you just cut those out of the offense.

Oh - and it's time to get cutthroat on the Offensive Line Nobody who played last year has a starting role for April, everyone has to compete for jobs, new portal OL, get a juco, create competition b/c that absolutely has to get better.

Thank you!

 

[Clonefan32]

I mean, having worked under Manning he should have some really great ideas about what not to do.