Scheelhasse oc
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The thing is here that Nate will be here a maximum of 3 years I would guess. If it works he will get a HC job. If it doesn't we will probably have a new HC. Hopefully Campbell is still our coach as we will have finally won the conference.
Can’t hurt with him being a quarterback he might have some different ideas on offense
He's graduated and still beating us.
Just happy the offensive line coach is leaving also.
- Dominique Orange (maybe the best high school nose we have gotten in 20 years)
- Jaylin Noel (who has to play better to catch up with his hype)
- Carson Willich (very good young LB if you watched his play this year)
- Deshawn Hannika: our best TE this year and it wasn't close
- Jason Essex: highly rated 3 star TE from Kansas City
- Highly rated 3 star DE Ikenna Ezegou from KC (beat out KSU and a number of schools for)
From a recruiting standpoint I get this. He is an ace and you do need to keep an ACE young coach happy. Only a matter of time before Iowa loses Levar Woods for instance.
From a coaching standpoint. I am neutral on this b/c we have yet to see - is Campbell going to give full reigns and say "this is your chance as a P5 OC, I won't meddle, it is your system". Or does he meddle and make this harder for him? We will see.
I know one thing, I hope he has learned from Tom in that: you don't run 3 TE sets when you have subpar tight ends and a subpar fullback (which Rus was), you don't call 3 yard routes when it is 3rd and 7, you have to be creative in the run game department, and you need to play to the team's strengths. Regardless of who got this job, those are 'quick fixes' for me in that you just cut those out of the offense.
Oh - and it's time to get cutthroat on the Offensive Line Nobody who played last year has a starting role for April, everyone has to compete for jobs, new portal OL, get a juco, create competition b/c that absolutely has to get better.
If I was OC I would get the big DL that was a QB in HS and line him up under center in short yardage plays until the other team can stop him.
I don't get it. He may be a great coach. However, can't we afford to get a proven guy who has done it before? I mean we are a major program. Go get a guy with a proven offensive scheme. I mean if you think about it, Nate has been learning from Manning. Do we really want the understudy of the guy we just fired?
Seems like Campbell saying:
- The offense was broke in 2022 but doesn't need an overhaul schematically. I think most people realized that having a ball control offense is part of Campbell's coaching DNA so he wasn't going to go all Mike Leach on us.
- It was Scheelhaase's time to become an OC. Either at ISU or another school.
- It's 16 days until national signing day and prime portal season, so best not to draw out an OC search out and move on to getting an OL, RB and S&C coach hired.
- Campbell's going to climb back up the mountain or take the big fall with the guys he knows and trusts.
**** yes! Congratulation Nate! Well deserved! I didn’t want a blow up, just a glow up.
Fingers crossed on this one. Now let’s get some highly rated linemen from the portal.
Have to imagine Golesh reached out to him shortly after becoming a HC
When we hired Prohm, I feel TJ was a strong candidate and probably who we wanted but didn’t feel we should offer that stretch and instead let someone else give him the experience while we went with someone that had experience. When the experienced candidate didn’t pan out, We we’re fortunate that TJ wanted to come back. So far it’s working out.
This feels like we learned and said “if we really like this guy, let’s be the one one to give him the experience vs hope we can get him back on staff later” . We don’t want to risk possibly losing him for good and regret it.
This feels like we learned and said “if we really like this guy, let’s be the one one to give him the experience vs hope we can get him back on staff later” . We don’t want to risk possibly losing him for good and regret it.
Yep. It also seems like none of those 4 should be a surprise.
Problem is that there's a lot of schools actively looking for OC's right now. Yes, we are a major program, but there are more major programs with a lot more money to offer that we'd be competing with. So we could have found someone from the outside, but it would likely be a name that's further down our list than we'd like. So if you have a guy in your system that is seen as a up and coming guy, it's a safer bet to go that route than open it up and risk a rough coach search right before signing day.
Initially not excited; was hoping to infuse some outside perspective, and gain someone with past experience as OC to prevent another "learning on the job" experience like we had with Manning. On first glance, this just screams "we want to keep status quo".
Thinking on it more though, I like the *potential* of this hire. I think the comparison to Collin Klein is fair. Young guy, decorated former-QB, and highly thought of in coaching circles. I'll reserve opinion until I see on field results, but I'll give Campbell and Scheelhaase the benefit of the doubt right now and be excited to see how they round out the staff and what's in store for next season.
Thinking on it more though, I like the *potential* of this hire. I think the comparison to Collin Klein is fair. Young guy, decorated former-QB, and highly thought of in coaching circles. I'll reserve opinion until I see on field results, but I'll give Campbell and Scheelhaase the benefit of the doubt right now and be excited to see how they round out the staff and what's in store for next season.
Based on the success we've seen over the past several years, is that a bad thing? This offensive scheme has shown to work. Just gotta be willing to take a risk at times. Hopefully Scheelhasse will be willing to do that and this offense looks more like it did when it was clicking than it did this year.
There is nothing wrong with ISU's offensive scheme. It resulted in 30ppg over the 2017 to 2021 period. It's also a scheme that has helped ISU develop a strong defense.
Just because Scheelhaase worked for Manning doesn't mean Scheelhaase is a mirror image of Manning from a scheme standpoint. It also doesn't mean that Scheelhaase would call offensive plays exactly the same. Coaches steal from other coaches that they work with and observe- so I don't feel Nate is boxed in by being a Manning protege.
Obviously, talent can make a coach look great. But I have always felt playing calling is an art and a coach either has it or doesn't. We'll see if Scheelhaase has it.
Personally I like the style we've been trying to establish- which is smash-mouth "power" spread with multiple TEs, large WRs, and powerful running backs, so I'm okay with keeping the system. The offensive line has been holding us back. Best of luck to Myers- can we please, please, PLEASE get an O-line coach (and strength coach) with a proven track record that can finally give us the power we need? The inability to convert in short yardage situations drives me insane. 
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