RECRUITING: Elijah Brown visit info

I hear what you're saying. I just typically judge a player based off the teams that are after him. Oregon and Gonzaga just got done playing in the final four and both teams return much of their backcourt. They are still after Brown for good reason. I'm not saying Edwards cant/won't be a heckuva player but Brown has already proven it.

People need to pump the brakes on Wigginton just a bit also. He's a stud be he will be a freshman. He isn't going to step on campus and average 16-17 ppg.
That's a good point on the other teams that are chasing a prospect. That's a good way of triangulating.
 
I hear what you're saying. I just typically judge a player based off the teams that are after him. Oregon and Gonzaga just got done playing in the final four and both teams return much of their backcourt. They are still after Brown for good reason. I'm not saying Edwards cant/won't be a heckuva player but Brown has already proven it.

People need to pump the brakes on Wigginton just a bit also. He's a stud be he will be a freshman. He isn't going to step on campus and average 16-17 ppg.
I agree completely. Edwards is more realistic, but he isn't a better player or fit. And as big of stud as Wigginton is, it's more likely he's goes for 8-10 ppg than 16-17ppg.
 
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I agree completely. Edwards is more realistic, but he isn't a better player or fit. And as big of stud as Wigginton is, it's more likely he's goes for 8-10 ppg than 16-17ppg.

I think 12 is a good number for him this year.
 
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I agree completely. Edwards is more realistic, but he isn't a better player or fit. And as big of stud as Wigginton is, it's more likely he's goes for 8-10 ppg than 16-17ppg.
I agree with this. Why would you rather have a guy that averaged 13 a game at juco than a guy that averaged 19 at Division 1 level and is proven. We need to replace a lot of scoring and Brown fits this.
 
I have visions of KJ Bluford with Edwards. I'll take the proven D1 commodity over the JUCO shooter every day and then alter the gameplan to make it work. I've always said that I think we're going to look more like Texas A&M or FL than a Hoiball team going forward. Get slashers, get length and power inside. Run it, rebound it, block shots/bother moreso than run it, space it, and defend every possession for 25 seconds.

This is exactly what we are going for (IMO).
 
I agree with this. Why would you rather have a guy that averaged 13 a game at juco than a guy that averaged 19 at Division 1 level and is proven. We need to replace a lot of scoring and Brown fits this.
We probably need both. I think we want both
 
Apologize if already discussed in earlier thread but thinking Dorsey going to NBA draft and maybe Dillon Brooks to follow, Oregon will have a lot to sell Brown, too, won't they?

Yes they will. IIRC, with Dorsey gone, if Dillon Brooks follows, they are in a similar guard position as us. Have 1-2 really good freshman coming in. Would be "selling" the same thing we are. A need for experienced and proven back court to mesh with incoming talent.
 
Dates are set other than the Zags.

@MarcusJSpeaesESPN Ex-New Mexico guard Elijah Brown,son of GS asst. Mike Brown, is visiting Oregon 4/13-15; Northwestern 4/18-20; Iowa St. 4/21-23; Gonzaga TBD
 
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I like that all of the guards we talk about bring something different to the table. Wiggington is a scorer. Shoots the three and drives. Edwards is a pure shooting guard. Brown is the tough kid like Deandre and can play multiple positions. Babb brings defense and is reliable to do the right thing, team player type. Darius might be the Naz type. Come in and not play very much, learn the ropes. Then come on and kill it his second year. So I like all these guards. Our team this year was a solid center/power forward away from being really really good. I love having a crap load of guards that can do a lot of things.
 
Glad we got a weekend visit

Yes, only matters If he makes it out of Oregon... The fact he has three visits set in a week makes me think he is planning taking all of his visits and then making a quick decision. Curious if the Gonzaga visit is pending the Nigel-Gross NBA decision.
Pure speculation but Small may have made an impression and got the second priority visit.
 
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Brown was interested in OU knowing Dorsey was out. They have a hell of class coming in, and are in the running for at least one great prep, so I'm still hoping there's a numbers issue in our favor. But I'm guessing he's top of their list and OU is willing to make the numbers work.

If we miss on Brown and don't get in on another grad transfer I could see us holding one open for when some of these draft guys return (like Alstork) or the Kane-type late season for free agents.
 
Brown was interested in OU knowing Dorsey was out. They have a hell of class coming in, and are in the running for at least one great prep, so I'm still hoping there's a numbers issue in our favor. But I'm guessing he's top of their list and OU is willing to make the numbers work.

If we miss on Brown and don't get in on another grad transfer I could see us holding one open for when some of these draft guys return (like Alstork) or the Kane-type late season for free agents.

Is it common to call Oregon "OU"? I keep reading that and thinking Oklahoma. Isn't it 'University of Oregon' anyways, so it'd be UO?

Anyways, I'd say Brown is the recruit we're most likely to miss out on. If we don't get him, but get Edwards/Juiston plus a sit-out like Shayok or Morrow/Jacobson, I'll be ecstatic.
 
Is it common to call Oregon "OU"? I keep reading that and thinking Oklahoma. Isn't it 'University of Oregon' anyways, so it'd be UO?

Anyways, I'd say Brown is the recruit we're most likely to miss out on. If we don't get him, but get Edwards/Juiston plus a sit-out like Shayok or Morrow/Jacobson, I'll be ecstatic.
You're correct.
 
I hear what you're saying. I just typically judge a player based off the teams that are after him. Oregon and Gonzaga just got done playing in the final four and both teams return much of their backcourt. They are still after Brown for good reason. I'm not saying Edwards cant/won't be a heckuva player but Brown has already proven it.

People need to pump the brakes on Wigginton just a bit also. He's a stud be he will be a freshman. He isn't going to step on campus and average 16-17 ppg.

He could though. I think it depends on how we run point. Is it going to be a duo or will one of Jackson or Wigg stick at the PG spot?

I think 16 is a little high, but I have no doubt in my mind that he averages at least 12ppg next year.

I agree completely. Edwards is more realistic, but he isn't a better player or fit. And as big of stud as Wigginton is, it's more likely he's goes for 8-10 ppg than 16-17ppg.

I think 12 is a good number for him this year.

Halsted already solved this riddle.

http://iowastate.247sports.com/Arti...k-Hill-point-guard-and-Iowa-State-si-51877703

TL;DR - teams with high ranked FR PG's that need their production got 9.9-13.2ppg (avg 11.76 for the 5).
 
Not really, 5 guys between 9.9-13.2 for guys in similar ranking and roles on their team is pretty consistent data. Not even an outlier in there.
That's assuming the guys that didn't have similar roles wasn't due to capability. You're basically excluding underpreformers- you're average should be tight. Which comes first, the role or the ability to meet that role? Some guys didn't have high usage because they weren't ready for that. The correlation of ranking to production isn't great, obviously distorted by roles as well as the fact rankings aren't precise. And that's a small sample.

I don't see Wigginton getting more than 8-12 ppg and us being a tournament team.
 

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