btw Blueford was kind of an afterthought on recruiting. We took him because we had an open scholly and not much else to get. Edwards is someone we identified a while ago and are persuing. With other big schools. So I would say quit comparing him to blueford.
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Both JUCO shooters. You never know how a JUCO guard is going to react and adapt. There are many more examples Bluford is just relevant to ISU so the comparisons are going to be there.
Look at the ones that didn't play and you can figure out why:
Xavier Simpson | Michigan | No. 67 overall, No. 13 PG - Good luck playing over SR Derrick Walton Jr 4 year starter
Markell Johnson | N.C. State | No. 59 overall, No. 10 PG - Good luck playing over the #3 PG and #7 overall player in your same class
Payton Pritchard | Oregon | No. 54 overall, No. 9 PG - Still had 7.7ppg on a Final 4 team
Ty Jerome | Virginia | No. 44 overall, No. 7 PG - Good luck playing over SR London Perrantes, leading scorer
Cassius Winston | Michigan State | No. 34 overall, No. 5 PG - MSU was full of talent, just didn't live up to it
Tell me how any of those 5 players fit in to the same role Lindell is coming into. The other guys on his list were the 5 that averaged 9.9-13.2ppg. You've seen that link posted a few times but I don't think you've read it once.
"But the top-tier players who produced in their freshman campaigns found themselves in situations of need. Moore had a usage percentage of 26.8 percent at Cal, Howard's was 26.7 percent at Marquette, Carr's was 24.3 percent at Penn State, Fisher's was 20.9 percent at TCU and Cowan's was 20.1 percent at Maryland."
So comparing to the guys who didn't have some elite player in front of them, Lindell should be 10-13ppg.
Lindell also played primarily at the 2 this entire year and was a primary scorer on an Elite HS team in the nation.
I was going to jump on this too, but got hung up. I may have approached this differently, but probably not "better".
I think we can look at one of these guys in particular as a potential forecast, and that's Charlie Moore.
Moore was asked to do almost exactly what Wigginton will be asked to do, unless we end up landing Brown.
If someone doesn't think Wigginton will be at or around Moore's freshman year production, they are undervaluing Wigginton, whether they mean to or not...perhaps subconsciously.
Wigginton is rated higher by every metric/service than Moore was rated by the same people. People who are paid to evaluate high school basketball players. That is their job, and all of them see Wigginton as a better prospect than they saw in Charlie Moore.
Most of those teams are pretty good. I should have stated things differently or more explicitly. Imo I don't think we'll be successful if Wigginton is going for 15+. But yes, if we're like Iowa l could see Wigginton putting up higher numbers. If Wigginton is our go-to guy I don't think that bodes well for our tournament chances. Moore is a good optimistic hope, although he certainly didn't lead his team to the tournament.
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Bluford was more of a low-percentage chucker at 37%.
http://njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2012-13/div1/players/kjblufordxfkk
Edwards shot nearly 47% this past season:
http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2016-17/div1/players/daryledwardstbmv
Also, Bluford was only 6'1", which probably made it more difficult to transition to D1 for a guy who didn't shoot a high percentage. Edwards is reported at 6'4".
So people can compare if they want, but it isn't a great comparison.
Also Bluford other offer per rivals was Arkansas St. unlike Edwards who has visits set with Utah, LSU, UNLV and ISU along with many other offers. Just cause they both took the JuCo route doesn't mean they are similar prospects.
Donovon Jackson was another JUCO guard known as a 3 point shooter. It's easy to look at Bluford, but ISU has actually done pretty well with JUCO prospects over the years.
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There is a big difference between Edwards and Bluford. Bluford was a volume shooter. He was only 36 or 37% 3pt shooter. Edwards on other hand is more of a pure shooter. He shot 46% from behind the arc. Regardless of competition, it is still difficult to shoot 46% from behind the arc.
More minutes open for Brown. I will be pleasantly surprised if he even makes it to Ames for his visit.
Yeah they will be tough to beat out for Brown. If Wiliams-Goss leaves Gonzaga, they could be a favorite as well.
Simply not true now with Dorsey and Brooks heading to the NBA.
Agree, if we add Juiston and Brown or Alstork, even though Jackson and Wigginton are not long, that's not a tiny team.