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lol at the guy that said " this hurts recruiting jp!!!" or whatever. THe guy runs a big 12 athletic dept. and you probably work at sams club. How bout you let him worry about it.

Because I'm currently talking about ISU with local potential recruits here in TX. And, yes, those recruits read this stuff.
 
Ha, sorry. Grabbed the wrong one. Typing these on the phone and did a search and grabbed the wrong link of the search list. Do a search for "unpaid internship" and you'll see dozens of links addressing this and the push to restrict them entirely as being illegal.

So, there isn't a group suing for unpaid internships in the US and it isn't illegal in the US? Just people who want it to be illegal. Got it.

Experience is valuable and if you choose to take an internship for experience, you shouldn't be able to go back crying later about not getting paid. There are plenty of things I have done in my life for the experience and didn't get paid for it. Hell, there are even times I have paid for the experience.
 
So, there isn't a group suing for unpaid internships in the US and it isn't illegal in the US? Just people who want it to be illegal. Got it.

Experience is valuable and if you choose to take an internship for experience, you shouldn't be able to go back crying later about not getting paid. There are plenty of things I have done in my life for the experience and didn't get paid for it. Hell, there are even times I have paid for the experience.

I wouldn't trade my unpaid internship for anything.

Also, what about D3 Athletes were does that stand? Does Johnny Manziel deserve more than the Guard protecting his *** every game? Or the 3rd stringer busting his *** in practice making him J FB better everyday?
 
A small stipend is fine as long as it is equal. Any unequal payments will ruin college sports. The divide between the rich and poor will grow, fewer teams will be able to support major sports, number of fans will be drastically reduced, and in the end, overall revenues will go down.
 
I wouldn't trade my unpaid internship for anything.

Also, what about D3 Athletes were does that stand? Does Johnny Manziel deserve more than the Guard protecting his *** every game? Or the 3rd stringer busting his *** in practice making him J FB better everyday?

D-3 sports dont make millions from TV revenue
 
So, there isn't a group suing for unpaid internships in the US and it isn't illegal in the US? Just people who want it to be illegal. Got it.

Experience is valuable and if you choose to take an internship for experience, you shouldn't be able to go back crying later about not getting paid. There are plenty of things I have done in my life for the experience and didn't get paid for it. Hell, there are even times I have paid for the experience.

Yes, and that's exactly what I stated if you follow the thread back. There is a push to make unpaid internships illegal.
 
D-3 sports dont make millions from TV revenue

Ok how about that Guard? If anything let Junior make his money off of autograph sales. But the schools should not pay. I missed out on going to school to play because of blowing out my knee, no one would have ever needed to pay me to play the sport I love. Ever.
 
So for efficiently running a program, JP gets $450,000?! Give me a break. Tell me, why wouldn't he get paid like a PE department chair, say $120,000? It's because it's BIG BUSINESS.

whats your point? is big business illegal? a crapload of people want to watch football so it takes a bunch of employees to make that happen. just think of how much money gets pumped into our economy by cyclone football alone.

you probably think the CEO of the United Way should work for free because its a charity.
 
We don't need another arena football, I agree with that. Student-athletes do get their hand held to graduation if they want to be successful which leads to a lot more money down the road in their careers on top of free school.

This is such an ignored part of the issue. They get free tutoring and support, something that a LOT of college students would love to have. God, the athletics department pays people to go to classes and check that ahletes are going to class. What a load of crap.
 
You can't pay football players without paying the tennis team, cross country, swimming, etc. If they pay everybody, they all get a really small amount of money. And obviously you can't pay based on the value of a certain player without destroying college athletics.
 
whats your point? is big business illegal? a crapload of people want to watch football so it takes a bunch of employees to make that happen. just think of how much money gets pumped into our economy by cyclone football alone.

you probably think the CEO of the United Way should work for free because its a charity.
Perhaps his point is that amateur athletics for a government institution is not something that should ethically be big business.
 
Dont confuse non-profit with poor. The NCAA sold rights to basketball tournament for $10 billion over 14 years. TEN BILLION. And you don't think they are getting rich? The IA HS Athletic Assoc is non-profit but has millions in holdings. Channel 13 did a story on it a few years ago.

The conference sell TV rights for hundreds of millions of dollars. They swap conference partners and disregard 100 year traditions for what, exactly?

And they aren't profiting?

you arent a business major, are you?

who do you think is "They"???

the NCAA is comprised of member schools. its not owned by bigtime Tex Shareholder who is laughing all the way to the bank. did you complete ignore my post about how the NCAA distributes all of its revenue thats not used for admin?
 
Perhaps his point is that amateur athletics for a government institution is not something that should ethically be big business.

LOL! did it start as a big business? or did it grow based on people like you and me who demand football every saturday? the fans drive this. its insane, but its reality. they would rather spend money on season tickets than save for juniors college.
 
So schools make millions on the athletes? Don't they also spend this money on the athletes with facilities, scholarships, everything else it takes to run an athletic department. As far as I remember, ISU only recently got the the point where the athletic department wasn't LOSING money. Yet we are led to believe the school is just rolling in money earned by the players? Saying that "Schools" make money off players is stupidly vague. Who exactly is making the money? The coaches? Athletic directors maybe? That would seem to be about it.

This pay for play thing seems to be directed at about 10-15 schools that have huge athletic budgets. What about the approximately 100 other schools that are just trying to break even with athletics? This reminds me of everyone getting excited about conference realignment that only benefits a few schools.
 
dont forget Pell Grants...thats a free $5000+ per year available to qualifying athletes ON TOP of their scholarship
 
LOL! did it start as a big business? or did it grow based on people like you and me who demand football every saturday? the fans drive this. its insane, but its reality. they would rather spend money on season tickets than save for juniors college.

Not saying you're wrong....
 
you arent a business major, are you?

who do you think is "They"???

the NCAA is comprised of member schools. its not owned by bigtime Tex Shareholder who is laughing all the way to the bank. did you complete ignore my post about how the NCAA distributes all of its revenue thats not used for admin?

Except for the $24 million they spent in 2008 on administration, the $26 million in unspent revenue in 2008 and the $350+ million in investments. An association's primary function is to ensure the survival of the association. So don't think they spent or distribute every dollar they make. And even if they did, it doesn't mean it was spent wisely, ethically, or to further its mission.

Again, I don't like the idea of paying players but college athletics isn't about amateurism any more (if it ever was). It isn't about student-athletes. It is about money. Lots of it. What else was realignment all about??

They brought this on themselves. The NCAA, it's conferences, and their schools.
 

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