Palestine Ohio

Probably should read the thread.
I've read the whole thread. I've also worked in the rail industry for 20 years. The unions fight with the RRs is long standing, and they are right about a lot of things, but there's no direct tie from the threatened strike to this accident - unless the allegation is that the strike would have ended PSR (not one of their demands), which is why I was asking
 
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I'm curious what you think the RR union strike has to do with this accident?

People are speculating about the cause of the accident. They don't have any evidence of anything, but like their priors confirmed. Roll with it. It's due for the cave any time now anyway that the "enviro-rapists looking out for their dividends" argument is out there.
 
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Well, I did read where people were being allowed to return to their homes in close proximity to the accident, which seems to be good news! Perhaps the response by all the responders was good; given the circumstances.

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Keep it civil folks. Managed to stay most of the day with it.
I think most people can see the difference in a non political and political thread but there is also a segment of people that immediately blame cave posters vs just being honest with what's being posted. Most of the people doing that blaming were cave posters or they linger and hide behind that.

The OP was blatantly wrong about so many things and decided to melt down today. The Red Cross does many wonderful things but he was lazy with his takes even about them.

I do appreciate your post because I do understand there are topics that should be able to be discussed without people freaking out.
 
What about the journalist that was arrested trying to cover the accident. Can't get the info to share from jail. If you think it is because it makes Biden look bad, well, that's just foolish.

The only journalist that I know was arrested was when the Ohio gov was getting ready to speak, after he learned of the arrest it he spoke out against it. Was there another one?
 
I feel bad for these residents. I'm also disappointed in everyone else involved that allowed this to happen. The only ones who will truly suffer are the locals.
It really surprises me that nobody got hurt at the scene. That’s a compete pants shitting moment. I know there will be lingering issues as time goes on but I’m talking just that initial accident.
 
One mechanic commenting said they may have had too many of the heavy cars at the back of the train causing some type of stress wave. And I think they also commented that the video made it seem like a bearing was going which should have been caught in maintenance. Said railroads were pushing a type of maintenance scheduling that was basically trying to reduce how much manpower hours were spent on it. I'll have to see if I can find the links, was several days ago so I'm sure I'll never find it. But it was very interesting to read.

This question isn't directed at you at all I wonder if those cars have heat sensors watching the bearings to know when they start heat up I know mechanics can point a thermal camera at bearings in equipment and find hot ones before they go clear out. I wonder if the railroads could set these up out on the tracks every 500 miles or so to remote monitor the bearings as the trains roll by. I would guess the trains and their cars are all bar coded or something like that to know where they are.
 
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Seems to me both Ohio State resources and federal resources (as well as WV National Guard) are working this accident well; in roles they have experts for the good of this community. The Ohio executive branch is republican, federal branch is democrat. Hope they continue to do so for the benefit of this community. Hopefully, Norfolk and Southern also is helping the situation.
 
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Yeah, but in the case of the railroads they are reducing, maintenance to the bare minimums on everything from cars, to engines to TRACK.

You see there are regulations for how often everything has to be inspected, but their are also loopholes to these as well, and railroads have become experts in using these loopholes.

The fact of the matter is the way precision railroading works is by increasing the size of trains to the extreme, decreasing the maintenance to the maximum, and even forcing the workers to control the train how a computer says vs how their experience says, usually to maximize fuel savings above anything else, regardless of the possible outcome. This puts extreme stress on equipment, and track etc, and pushes employees to their absolute limit.

Sometimes its just an accident. Sometimes it is not. But every time you have to realize the RR will go to every possible extreme to control the narrative. They will most likely scapegoat an employee in the end, because no way could it be their piss poor management, or lack there of that caused it.

Their is so much wrong with the RRs today, I wish I could explain it all, but just know its not good.

Family that work in the railroad industry?
 
well.....I am taking a round trip 1st of March from Ottumwa, IA to Emeryville, CA. Hope the BNSF and Southern Pacific keep their tracks in decent shape. Few days of riding the rails, In the 50's my mother would send me from Chicago to Burlington on the train, a little nostalgia for me planned before this tragedy in Ohio. To be honest, not worried, but accidents have happened on some airplanes I flew during my career; including international and military flights.
 
well.....I am taking a round trip 1st of March from Ottumwa, IA to Emeryville, CA. Hope the BNSF and Southern Pacific keep their tracks in decent shape. Few days of riding the rails, In the 50's my mother would send me from Chicago to Burlington on the train, a little nostalgia for me planned before this tragedy in Ohio. To be honest, not worried, but accidents have happened on some airplanes I flew during my career; including international and military flights.

Sounds like a fun trip. Always wanted to take a train from Iowa to California.
 

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