This is getting cavey.
I dont get pushing politics into something that has nothing do with politics. Its gonna be an enviromental wasteland for years to come.
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This is getting cavey.
Just Asking Questions, man. Making sure the narratives are all in line. Don't even get to talk about these details in the cave because all the people pushing them out here don't post in there, they just say the same stuff out here instead.Good question. You seem to be getting upset with all of this. Relax.
Didn't some authority decide to burn the cars in question so they wouldn't explode? I'm not sure what the resulting burn products are, but they certainly are airborne. Talk about no good choices.
It hasn’t been covered by mainstream media because the aftermath and the response makes the current administration look incompetent.
We have decisions to make on infrastructure investment, also shipping chemicals, lng, etc are regulated. So when something bad happens, there’s an aspect of that coupled with what the response should be.I dont get pushing politics into something that has nothing do with politics. Its gonna be an enviromental wasteland for years to come.
Didn't some authority decide to burn the cars in question so they wouldn't explode? I'm not sure what the resulting burn products are, but they certainly are airborne. Talk about no good choices.
My understanding is that the vinyl chloride was stored as a liquid, so it was likely refrigerated. That along with butyl acrylate and other volatile and potentially explosive compounds were among the ~50 cars that derailed. The derailment caused a fire, so in order to avoid a catastrophic explosion, the decision was made to do a "controlled release" of the volatile compounds which involved burning them off.
The byproducts of this burning is what got into the air, and will make its way onto the ground, into the soil, and into the water system. It has already been detected in the Ohio river, so the long term damage can only be guessed at.
Controlled is the reasoningI think i heard this too but start a fire so it won't explode????
I dont get pushing politics into something that has nothing do with politics. Its gonna be an enviromental wasteland for years to come.
What about the journalist that was arrested trying to cover the accident. Can't get the info to share from jail. If you think it is because it makes Biden look bad, well, that's just foolish.It hasn’t been covered by mainstream media because the aftermath and the response makes the current administration look incompetent.
Which could be a deeper dive in the cave. Not out here where the rules have been mentioned over and over.We have decisions to make on infrastructure investment, also shipping chemicals, lng, etc are regulated. So when something bad happens, there’s an aspect of that coupled with what the response should be.
Always remember: Regulations are written in blood.It blows my mind that people think politics isn't central to this. Who do you think regulates all this to make sure they aren't poisoning everyone to cover their ass and open up the railway again? Who is going to hold them accountable for what they've done already? Who steps in the aftermath to help this small town handle what's going on and helps fund the recovery?
If you want the safe space version of this just read the news article, there's no way to discuss the aftermath rationally without politics.
Just explaining it to him. I did initiate the cave thread prior to this thread so I’m aware.Which could be a deeper dive in the cave. Not out here where the rules have been mentioned over and over.
It’s being called safe, but not everyone is convinced.Well, I did read where people were being allowed to return to their homes in close proximity to the accident, which seems to be good news! Perhaps the response by all the responders was good; given the circumstances.
Yeah, because officials and responders never downplay and deflect the severity of an incident in order to make themselves look better.Well, I did read where people were being allowed to return to their homes in close proximity to the accident, which seems to be good news! Perhaps the response by all the responders was good; given the circumstances.
yingIt blows my mind that people think politics isn't central to this. Who do you think regulates all this to make sure they aren't poisoning everyone to cover their ass and open up the railway again? Who is going to hold them accountable for what they've done already? Who steps in the aftermath to help this small town handle what's going on and helps fund the recovery?
If you want the safe space version of this just read the news article, there's no way to discuss the aftermath rationally without politics.
Which is annoying, because the only group to actually blame here is the one operating the trains.Well no ****, I am not saying it isnt regulated. but its not either side would have wanted this to happen. But in the end Fox News and CNN will blame each side. Thats what I am saying, its a joke.
Norfolk Southern. That is the company that operated this train. It's frustrating that their name is not being brought up in every single article about the incident.Which is annoying, because the only group to actually blame here is the one operating the trains.
I'm sure they were just cutting corners to save costs at the expense of safety like any good corporation, no biggie.Which is annoying, because the only group to actually blame here is the one operating the trains.