That's obviously, what I'm asking is how does 2 home games not outweigh that buyout when we're easily making $100 per person entering a 50k stadium. (Ticket, parking, concessions )
*** Official IOWA STATE vs Cincinnati Game(Day) Thread ***
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Your argument is to just buy out all the road game portions of the contract?
You realize if you start making that a habit, no one’s going to schedule you in the first place, right?
Iowa does it every year. 7 home games every year. They will not leave the state in non cons.
We aren't bringing in P5 other then Iowa. Estimating only 10% of P5 schools travel to a non P5 in a given year. We seem to do it more then most. But that's getting off topic. I want to know the revenue difference. I was originally responding to a statement that we so it as a cost savings.
Saving money HA Ha
Could make a difference this year.
Loss at OHIO could cost us a bowl game.
How does that figure in on the metrics????
Lol
Still Waiting on RonBurgandy and CyDude16 for your replies……
Could make a difference this year.
Loss at OHIO could cost us a bowl game.
How does that figure in on the metrics????
Lol
Still Waiting on RonBurgandy and CyDude16 for your replies……
Not really, season tickets are the same price either way, relatively few tickets are single game.
Cyclone Larry tweeted before the game that the game vs Texas on Nov 18 will be a play in game for the Big 12 Championship. I laughed at the time, but when I run through the scenarios it's not that crazy. You gotta beat Texas to have the head to head, but you'd have room to slip up and go 3-1 with the other 4. (depending on some other tie breakers)
Do I think we actually make it to Arlington? Absolutely not. I just want to make a bowl.
But we keep playing like this, I think there's a legit chance a trip to Jerry's World is on the line mid-late November. Which is just unbelievable considering where this program was at a month ago.
Not sure if Contreraz still has his sixth year available. Looking at his bio, looks like it depends on whether he sat out a year before heading to Iowa Western.
Chase Contreraz - Football - Iowa State University Athletics
Chase Contreraz (19) Placekicker - Awards & Honors Honorable Mention All-Big 12 Placekicker and Special Teams Player of the Year - Coaches (2023) Big 12 Spec...cyclones.com
This is year 6. One and done.
But the A.D. almost always adds to the ticket price whenever we get 7 home games and never subtract when we don't.
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Another way to look at it: the four new teams look pretty bad.
ISU has a pretty storied history of helping bad teams come alive or make history.
ISU dominated this bad team.
No complaints here. A win is a good win. This was a fun, good win, so it really doesn't matter for us whether Cincy is good or bad. It's a win.
Remember in another thread that you thought because a coach said good things about Will McDonald and he did pretty well in preseason work that he should be playing more?
That's the kind of logic you're using with this scheduling stuff.
It's Dumb because it happens all the time. Here is just a partial list of P5 schools that played on the road at G5 (just this year).
NC State @ UConn
Cal @ North Texas
Kansas @ Nevada
Texas Tech @ Wyoming
Oregon State @ San Jose State
Ole Miss @ Tulane
UCLA @ San Diego St
Alabama @ S Florida
Vandy @ UNLV
Miami @ Temple
Oklahoma @ Tulsa
So to imply that Iowa State is the only school to do this is Dumb.
It is also Dumb to think that ISU hosting a G5 school is some kind of guaranteed win. We have lost to UNI, UConn, Louisiana, even North Dakota State & Drake at home.
It is Dumb because the youth, the gambling player losses, and the rampant illness that struck the team that weekend are as big of factors as the location of that game. We could have easily lost at home to Ohio the way we played and the fact that they are not terrible.
Finally, it is Dumb because this horse has been beaten to death and everyone knows why we schedule this way. Maybe with the new Big 12 contract, we can afford to buy out more games.
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Finally went over and had a look at the Cincinnati forums and to see what they had to say about the game yesterday and ISU overall.
Most of them thought they would defeat ISU around 27 to 17, and would control the game. They are really down on their new coach, lack of talent and the overall football program. They are thinking that Baylor is their only chance for a win this year.
I suppose they are typical fans, thinking they are a lot better than what they are, and that they would keep right on rolling like they were in the AAC. But as someone pointed out they are not playing those teams anymore and its going to take a couple of seasons to build up a roster to compete in the B12.
Most of them thought they would defeat ISU around 27 to 17, and would control the game. They are really down on their new coach, lack of talent and the overall football program. They are thinking that Baylor is their only chance for a win this year.
I suppose they are typical fans, thinking they are a lot better than what they are, and that they would keep right on rolling like they were in the AAC. But as someone pointed out they are not playing those teams anymore and its going to take a couple of seasons to build up a roster to compete in the B12.
2021: six home games, $600 season tickets
2022: seven home games, $600 season tickets
2023: six home games, $600 season tickets
That's mostly a fair statement.
Even shifty teams are good for a surprise every now and again but I will be very surprised if Cinci wins 2 more games the rest of the year. I think it's far more likely it's zero than two, likely one at home when they play well (for them) and catch a lesser team napping.
That's the thing about the B12. Where's the floor? Most conferences have a few teams in the bottom that you could count as a sure win. But not in this conference. Yes we might not have the elite top teams but who are out worse teams: Houston, BYU, Cincy? And when the 4 Western schools come in where's the floor then?
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