Note to Jon Miller

[cohawk]

Worst is the fact that you never know what kind of school Iowa is. When Ferentz was struggling, and they hired Steve Alford they claimed they didn't care about football and were already clearing out the trophy case for all the hardware Alford was gonna bring. When they sucked at FB and BB both they hung their hat on Wrestling. Of couse the directors cup dosen't count because they aren't gonna win. Don't you realize Iowa has never lost a game really. You know all the excuses. If they wouldn't have had 30+ days off they would have beat USC in the OB, instead of losing by 30.

I doubt we would have beat USC regardless of how many days we had off. USC would have steamrolled just about everyone at the end of the season. I'd take getting pounded in the Orange Bowl over playing in the Ceasar's Pizza Bowl in Detroit and winning.

As for the Directors cup. No one is going to win that. Stanford wins it every year. I honestly don't care where we finish in that Directors club.

 

[uthaman]

I honestly don't get why everyone gets so worked up about hawk fan's opinion of Iowa State. Screw them. In football they are the 9th most important game on our schedule. IT IS A NON-CONFERENCE GAME. And that holds if we are playing in the Big 12, Big East, MWC, or wherever.

And don't give me any argument about the football game meaning anything for instate recruiting. Please that is like two people fighting over who saw the penny on the ground first.

Drop iowa as a non-conference opponent. If Iowa State ends up in the Big East, then approach MWC teams to get a game in Texas every year. And never play Knebraska again. The hawks can now see what a bunch of traveling trolls can do to their town every two years...

 

[weR138]

I honestly don't get why everyone gets so worked up about hawk fan's opinion of Iowa State. Screw them. In football they are the 9th most important game on our schedule. IT IS A NON-CONFERENCE GAME. And that holds if we are playing in the Big 12, Big East, MWC, or wherever.

And don't give me any argument about the football game meaning anything for instate recruiting. Please that is like two people fighting over who saw the penny on the ground first.

Drop iowa as a non-conference opponent. If Iowa State ends up in the Big East, then approach MWC teams to get a game in Texas every year. And never play Knebraska again. The hawks can now see what a bunch of traveling trolls can do to their town every two years...

It's difficult to get our fanbase to agree with this even though it's exactly right. Our affiliation with UofI has obviously done nothing to help our AD. Why any ISU fan would want the UofI to continue to profit from competition with us is beyond me. UofI doesn't want us to exist (at least they're enabling our demise) so why not oblige them? It's time to sever ties with UofI.

 

[TarHeelHawk]

It's difficult to get our fanbase to agree with this even though it's exactly right. Our affiliation with UofI has obviously done nothing to help our AD. Why any ISU fan would want the UofI to continue to profit from competition with us is beyond me. UofI doesn't want us to exist (at least they're enabling our demise) so why not oblige them? It's time to sever ties with UofI.

If you're speaking in a financial sense, that statement is 100% false.

Second (and this is part of a greater point that, one that nobody here seems to understand), the events of yesterday do not doom the ISU athletic department, or the University in any way. As of this morning, the Big 12 still exists. Everyone here seems to be focusing on the negative, that the conference will dissolve and ISU and four other schools will be left out. What that doesn't mean is that ISU can't then join the Big East, or be a part of the new Mountain West. NOTHING that has happned over the last few days has taken ISU's BCS affiliation away, and if I were a betting man, I would bet that after everything is settled that ISU is in a much better position than they would have been in the Big 12. Whether that is the Big East, MWC, or some new version of the Big 12 remains to be seen.

 

[cuinknk]

You sit there and says over and over the ISU-Iowa game doesnt benefit Iowa. When 24 of the last 25 games were won by the better team. You have such an elitiest view of the U of I vs ISU, it makes me sick. Fans like you are the reason I hope Iowa dont give a **** about Iowa. Hell any preseason game Iowa plays is a risk. Iowa has had a lot of close calls and non conference losses to teams worse than ISU over the years. It is not like Iowa is playing and losing to some bottom of the pack MAC school. ISU is in a BCS conference and plays some good schools every year, something that helps Iowa in the big picture. ISU has had a better run the NWern the past few years, yet Iowa struggles vs them. ISU has had a better run than Indiana over the years and yet Iowa loses to them. Should Iowa stop playing those teams. Maybe Iowa should just play the upper 6 teams in the Big 10. Iowa playing ISU benefits them more than playing some no name school. What is wrong with playing a good team earily to get issues fixed. I know you and Iowa fans think they shoul be playing some big name school, but do the big name schools want to play Iowa. Hell playing this game for ISU is a risk, losing this game can cost ISU a bowl game, they could be playing some no name school and get a sure W. Teams at the level Iowa thinks it is on need to play games like this. ISU has a budget that is very small compaired to Iowa, yet their athletic dept is in just as good of shape if not better shape than Iowa's. Just think what ISU could do with Iowa's athletic budget.

I agree totatlly. During the expansion talk, a friend of mine said he thought if ISU was in the Big Ten we would have a better idea of which team was better. If you look at the history, especially recently, it's tough to argue at the end of the year that the better team did not win in September, 2002 being the exception that I think most can agree on.

 

[vailianator]

Did an Iowa State fan photoshop this? Because if they did, it isn't near enough of a burn to actually warrant the time it would take to do it. I feel sad for this person.

 

[CycloneYoda]

Did an Iowa State fan photoshop this? Because if they did, it isn't near enough of a burn to actually warrant the time it would take to do it. I feel sad for this person.

It's actually pretty good, but I wouldn't expect your average low-brow hickHawk to understand how to tie a show, much less understand a joke.

 

[HawkFanISUalum]

It's actually pretty good, but I wouldn't expect your average low-brow hickHawk to understand how to tie a show, much less understand a joke.

Well this is one hickHawk who has no idea how to tie a show...

 

[hawkeyescott]

Is anyone else not shocked at all that this post hasn't been taken on by a single hawk fan?

I'll take it on.

Gimme a break. If Iowa was ranked in the top 10 of Directors Cup, you'd be the first to remind everyone about it.

For a Hawkeye fan:
Directors Cup is to Iowa Basketball, no cares unless they are ranked.

LOL, how much smack talk was there last year from Iowa fans about Iowa finishing higher than ISU in the Directors Cup or the last couple of years for that matter? Maybe Iowa fans really don't give a **** about it.

 

[dosry5]

I'll take it on.



LOL, how much smack talk was there last year from Iowa fans about Iowa finishing higher than ISU in the Directors Cup or the last couple of years for that matter? Maybe Iowa fans really don't give a **** about it.

You said LOL! LOL!

 

[tazclone]

How does it benefit Iowa?

Nationally televised game and at least regionally. That = more $$$$ then playing arkansas st on the big ten network. $$$$$. I am sure Iowa City and the university of Iowa sees a lot more $$$ when ISU comes to town. Strength of schedule. ISU plays tougher competition so it ultimately helps iowa's strength of schedule.
just a few

 

[hawkeyescott]

You said LOL! LOL!

So what is your point? Why not just admit that Iowa fans don't give a **** about the Directors Cup and it isn't because ISU is ahead of them this year like ISU fans want to think. If Iowa fans did care at all you would have heard the smack talk for the last 16 years straight and I don't think you have heard Directors Cup smack talk at all from Iowa fans the past 16 years until ISU fans brought it up this year.

NACDA OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE - Directors Cup

 

[vailianator]

It's actually pretty good, but I wouldn't expect your average low-brow hickHawk to understand how to tie a show, much less understand a joke.

Normally I hate grammar police, but if you are going to insult someone's intelligence..."tie a show", really?

The joke isn't hard to understand, its just not that funny. And like I said, certainly not funny enough to warrant the time it would take to pull it off.

Now, some cyclone fan leaning over his computer while putting it together thinking to himself "I'm really gonna get them"....that is funny.

But I'm sure that humor is lost on you.

 

[vailianator]

Nationally televised game and at least regionally. That = more $$$$ then playing arkansas st on the big ten network. $$$$$. I am sure Iowa City and the university of Iowa sees a lot more $$$ when ISU comes to town. Strength of schedule. ISU plays tougher competition so it ultimately helps iowa's strength of schedule.
just a few

A team like Missouri can bring just as much to the table as ISU.

And we would probably hand Mizzou their a**, more often than ISU.
Although I think that will change in upcoming years. Get ready for a 5-10 drought cyclone fans.

 

[tazclone]

A team like Missouri can bring just as much to the table as ISU.

And we would probably hand Mizzou their a**, more often than ISU.
Although I think that will change in upcoming years. Get ready for a 5-10 drought cyclone fans.

No it can't. Perhaps you don't know what we ISU fans know. There is a reason Mizzou gets passed up for bowl games...they don't support.

Do you seriously think Iowa City would be as busy for a Mizzou game? That is just silly. I have been to Iowa for games. Both ISU and non ISU. it is a much differnt atmosphere for the ISU game than any other game that isn't PSU or tOSU. And Mizzou wouldn't be a rivalry game that brought the need for a regionally telvised game.

 

[Clark]

No it can't. Perhaps you don't know what we ISU fans know. There is a reason Mizzou gets passed up for bowl games...they don't support.

Do you seriously think Iowa City would be as busy for a Mizzou game? That is just silly. I have been to Iowa for games. Both ISU and non ISU. it is a much differnt atmosphere for the ISU game than any other game that isn't PSU or tOSU. And Mizzou wouldn't be a rivalry game that brought the need for a regionally telvised game.

If they played every year you are probably right. But if they schedule a home and home (and Mizzou honors it) it will be a guaranteed sellout.

 

[vailianator]

No it can't. Perhaps you don't know what we ISU fans know. There is a reason Mizzou gets passed up for bowl games...they don't support.

Do you seriously think Iowa City would be as busy for a Mizzou game? That is just silly. I have been to Iowa for games. Both ISU and non ISU. it is a much differnt atmosphere for the ISU game than any other game that isn't PSU or tOSU. And Mizzou wouldn't be a rivalry game that brought the need for a regionally telvised game.

Well, we are just going to have to disagree on the change of atmosphere in Iowa City. Did you ever think that maybe you feel that way because you're an ISU fan?

PSU & OSU (as you mentioned), Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota (not lately, but usually), all have an equal or better atmosphere than the ISU game. You could probably even throw Michigan State or Illinois into that category depending on the year.

Either way I think you are totally overselling the fact that ISU brings fans to Iowa City. Kinnick will not have a problem selling out any game for the foreseeable future. And that is what matters. I'm sure Iowa City enjoys having the extra fans, but its not as big of a factor as you make it out to be.

As far as ISU being a more likely regionally televised game, you could not be more off base. No one outside of Iowa cares about the Iowa vs ISU game. Over the last ten years Mizzou has seen more success than ISU, and they bring both Kansas City and St. Louis. Both of which would be included in a regionally televised game.

 

[Rural]

"We can all agree that the better team didn't win in 2002"

Let's go to the tape.

Down 17 at half on the road. Comes back so hard in the 2nd half that the game is sacked (in the other direction) with 5 minutes to go.

The right team won the game in 2002.

 

[lol]

"We can all agree that the better team didn't win in 2002"

Let's go to the tape.

Down 17 at half on the road. Comes back so hard in the 2nd half that the game is sacked (in the other direction) with 5 minutes to go.

The right team won the game in 2002.

The right team? Yeah, ISU deserved to win. No one could possibly doubt that. But Iowa was a far superior team. On that day, ISU was better. It's called an upset. It wasn't the first time a superior team has lost to an inferior team and it certainly won't be the last. That's part of what makes sports so much fun (well, unless it happens to your team!)

 

[deadeyededric]

Yes the logical answer is just to nut up and play the game. If your better you should win. They should probably take UNI and Arkansas State off their nonconference schedule also. Who knows what goes through the minds of TavernHawks and TrailerHawks though.