New 2011 Scholarship Offer
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ISU has to take some gambles. Not a bad idea offering a guy, that could blow up on the AAU circuit this summer and become a top150 guy.
Plus he has ISU bloodlines, and we need guys who not only want to play for a coach but more importantly play for the school.
I am still ****** that "Jean" Chizik did not recruit the Van Slotten kid from Decorah who's family had strong ISU ties and he ends up going to Iowa.
Plus he has ISU bloodlines, and we need guys who not only want to play for a coach but more importantly play for the school.
I am still ****** that "Jean" Chizik did not recruit the Van Slotten kid from Decorah who's family had strong ISU ties and he ends up going to Iowa.
Didn't CJ have other BCS offers? Plus he committed under Morgan
Ill give you Wes
Mann had other BCS offers
Brister did not get an early offer, and per CrossCyed had other BCS offers
Buck I will give to you, but as an upperclassman he could have been decent
Vette got an offer the spring of his Sr year
Keep on trying.
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They did recruit him but they didn't offer him because they felt good about what they had at OL.
My point is not about early offers, it is about offering guys with no or extremely limited offers from other BCS schools. This is an alarming trend.
Also, can someone give me quality examples of kids we recruited early, got a commitment, he blew up, and he stayed with us? The risk far outweighs the reward here.
what risk? we are recruiting a kid the coaches like, if he chooses to come here great, if not bummer, we'll try and find the next best recruit.
That article kg posted says robby hummel type player, sign me up for that.
The risk is he comes, doesn't pan out, sits on the end of the bench, leaves for Indiana State and only perpetuates the cycle of players coming and going as they please from our program.
It seems like you are also concerned about early offers. Which is fair, because it makes the most since to compare Uthoff to an early offer and not a Vette or Brister situation. The only early offer that back-fired in my opinion is Eik.
I'd say the worst case is he comes to ISU, cannot cut it, but stays. Unlikely for that to happen. It would also suck if we did not offer and he blew up.
For the reason that you state, we probably shouldn't recruit anyone who isn't a 5-star or a 1 and done player.
Not having a recruit pan out is a risk that you have to take. There are countless 4 and 5 star guys who just don't pan out, not just the under recruited guys.
exactly, just about everyone that isn't a football recruit in hs that is over 6'4'' is skinny
There is a big difference between recruiting 4-5 stars and recruiting players with offers from Albany and Creighton.
If the kid turns out to be Kyle Singer or Robbie Hummel, then great...but more often then not these kids end up being Clinton Manns or Clayton Vettes which is why we are in the situation we are in today.
Yeah, but Singlee is too skinny to make it through a Big 12 conf schedule. *sic*
yes, but we can't live constantly afraid that all the players that we recruit are going to leave us before they graduate.
Not disagreeing with you but every player regardless of star rating gets offers from schools like Albany and Creighton, they just get weeded out quicker than the rest of the bigger schools.
Here is a simple syllogism.
Everyone agrees that having so many players leave the program is a huge problem for our program.
A majority of the player leaving our programs left because they weren't playing, and transfered to a lower level program that better fit their game.
Thus, if we quit recruiting so many players that are projects or reaches, we theoretically would have less players transfer, leading to more continuity and chemistry.
Everyone agrees that having so many players leave the program is a huge problem for our program.
A majority of the player leaving our programs left because they weren't playing, and transfered to a lower level program that better fit their game.
Thus, if we quit recruiting so many players that are projects or reaches, we theoretically would have less players transfer, leading to more continuity and chemistry.
I definitely disagree with that. MVC players of the year do not get ate alive in the Big 12. They aren't Big 12 players of the year, but Koch would have been very solid for us.