Nebraska vs. ISU

Many of the breaks they received in last years game?

What, like losing their Starting QB AND Starting RB for the game? Having two freshman making their first starts at those positions?

No, like 8 turnovers I believe 5 of which were within ISU's 10 yard line. That is an incredibly unlikely stat, and a huge advantage to ISU, and you still won by 2. As far as injuries, thats just part of the game. Nebraska gave all but 5 carries to it's 3rd string Back, and our QB was injured as well as many of the players on the O-line. So really that is a poor point to argue.
 
Very true, however if you take other things into consideration he likely wasn't. The injury, the new system, maybe his receivers weren't separating. I will take AA every day over Zac Lee.

And I said that in my post, but I don't think the drop off is nearly as bad as UNIguy made it seem. I like Arnaud, I really do, but both QBs have games where they hurt the team more than help... Can't rip on Zac Lee's inconsistencies while praising Arnaud unless you conveniently forget the Iowa game.
 
No, like 8 turnovers I believe 5 of which were within ISU's 10 yard line. That is an incredibly unlikely stat, and a huge advantage to ISU, and you still won by 2. As far as injuries, thats just part of the game. Nebraska gave all but 5 carries to it's 3rd string Back, and our QB was injured as well as many of the players on the O-line. So really that is a poor point to argue.

No it isn't. Your depth of talent is much better than ours. Your drop offs were not huge. Zac Lee was still playing. AA never saw the field and neither did our 1200 yard back.
 
In no way was my post troll like, and to those of you who think it was your just a little insecure. As far as injuries go we gave a vast majority of our carries to our third string running back, and our QB was injured. Even with that being the case and 8 turnovers our offense gained 123 yards more than yours. Our 3rd string running back averaged 5 yards a carry. Even if our D isnt as good as last year (Even though Pelini and Suh both said it will be) we will still be in the top 15, and that's good enough to hold ISU's O to 14 points.

This is why I love CF; the fresh perspectives. NU fan thinks the Huskers will beat us next year. Great stuff.

You lost Nebraska fan. You lost and no matter how you try to justify it so that your inferior intellect can grasp it it will still go down as an L.

What is it exactly that you want to talk about;

Your superior talent?
Your superior coaching staff?
Your superior fan base?

You had that last year and lost. Lost in Lincoln. To a first year head coach. At lowly Iowa State. You can fill this thread with dozens of posts blathering about why it that NU will win but that's why they play the game isn't it? To give Husker fans a break from talking about how it is that they will win it?

I hope you're there to see CPR go back to back vs. NU.
 
Um, there are non-BCS schools with better recruiting classes than we have. We're picking up scraps.

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2010 Team Recruiting Rankings
Please stop with your recruiting knowledge. Just a little did you know. Its a very well known fact that on many occasions when a player signs with an Iowa/ISU, they are said to "lose" a star, but when they sign with a ND, they gain one.
 
Luck is when preparation meets opportunity. Don't ever forget that.



I don't think anyone has said it will be a big drop off. A DT/NG can single handedly do more damage than any other player on the field. Pressure is one thing, pressure up the middle is another. You won't have as good of a player there as you did last year. Your secondary seemed good but that could be inflated by the fact that Suh created chaos and opportunities for them.


It can be argued that a turnover itself is not luck, but as you stated a situation when preparation meets opportunity. 8 turnovers, 5 of which are within your 10 yard line, well that is damn close to being lucky.

We wont have as good of a player at DT as we did last year that's for sure, but we will have a preseason all American, and 2 CB's with pro-potential. We also will have a more experienced LB corp, and a great returning DE in Allen. As far as our secondary beinng inflated by Suh, I watched every game last year and honestly I feel our secondary helped Suh out just as much as he helped them.
 
Please stop with your recruiting knowledge. Just a little did you know. Its a very well known fact that on many occasions when a player signs with an Iowa/ISU, they are said to "lose" a star, but when they sign with a ND, they gain one.

Did you read this on Wikipedia?
 
It can be argued that a turnover itself is not luck, but as you stated a situation when preparation meets opportunity. 8 turnovers, 5 of which are within your 10 yard line, well that is damn close to being lucky.

We wont have as good of a player at DT as we did last year that's for sure, but we will have a preseason all American, and 2 CB's with pro-potential. We also will have a more experienced LB corp, and a great returning DE in Allen. As far as our secondary beinng inflated by Suh, I watched every game last year and honestly I feel our secondary helped Suh out just as much as he helped them.

I can remember one fumble that was not "ripped" out. You have to give us a little credit there. You probably won't, but whatever.
 
Please stop with your recruiting knowledge. Just a little did you know. Its a very well known fact that on many occasions when a player signs with an Iowa/ISU, they are said to "lose" a star, but when they sign with a ND, they gain one.
A very well known fact? It's an excuse from the people who follow recruiting rankings. "Oh, they're trying to screw my team!" 95% of the time, there's a reason the players we recruit aren't going to Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, etc. They've picked up the better players. We get what's left over after they've taken their pick.
 
I can remember one fumble that was not "ripped" out. You have to give us a little credit there. You probably won't, but whatever.

Ok, no matter if we caused the fumbles, or if Niles Paul is just going to go off being a retard again, 8 is unlikely to happen again. I think we can agree on that.
 
I wasn't comparing anything.
No... I was.

You said if their players played it didn't matter if they were hurt.
But in a later post you said it mattered when 3 lineman/half our team was sick.

Just saying you can't make that argument.
 
Ok, no matter if we caused the fumbles, or if Niles Paul is just going to go off being a retard again, 8 is unlikely to happen again. I think we can agree on that.

Yes, I would agree. That wasn't my point. My point was that with an exception, they weren't just dropping the ball all willy nilly and we happened to be there.
 
No, like 8 turnovers I believe 5 of which were within ISU's 10 yard line. That is an incredibly unlikely stat, and a huge advantage to ISU, and you still won by 2. As far as injuries, thats just part of the game. Nebraska gave all but 5 carries to it's 3rd string Back, and our QB was injured as well as many of the players on the O-line. So really that is a poor point to argue.
So are turnovers...
So, if you take away our injuries and your turnovers, we still won... On your field.
 
Its common knowledge to most that cover recruiting.

I see. well, you'll have to explain it to those of us normal people. Do you have any stats on this? Anything quantifiable?

Also, just because they are "scraps" now doesn't mean they can't develop. So yes, we get "scraps", but that doesn't mean we are screwed. Does that make you happy?
 
No... I was.

You said if their players played it didn't matter if they were hurt.
But in a later post you said it mattered when 3 lineman/half our team was sick.

Just saying you can't make that argument.

Yeah, I know. In the end, my point was just that if he wants to talk about Lee, then you have to look at our line and other sick players. Otherwise, you don't talk about either.

I still don't see how apples to oranges applies.
 

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