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Reviews for this film have been fun. They're very careful to avoid spoilers.
It's gonna be good, real good.

I really want to believe that and tend to believe that, but after the reviews for Last Jedi and even Black Panther to some extent, I'm a bit gun shy right now. The Last Jedi was one where I walked away very much disappointed after reading raving reviews, whereas Black Panther was to a much lesser extent, where the reviews raved about the movie like it was the best thing ever, yet I just found it to be good and somewhat overrated. Shoot, the same thing went for Thor: Ragnarok with me, so that means I've had some disparity on the last 3 movies which have been released. That makes a bit of a trend, at least with me personally. Therefore, maybe it is a good thing there is a few mixed things in these reviews. Who knows. I do have a lot of faith in the Russo Bros, so that helps a ton.
 
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I honestly couldn't care less about the rotten tomatoes score. IMO it's a trash metric because like most things on the internet now, the only people voting are people that loved it or hated it, and it's susceptible to things like dorks going crazy over their Space Jesus in Luke Skywalker not living up to a perceived ideal.

Cinemascore ratings, a true survey, typically are a lot closer to critic reviews. Black Panther Cinemascore was A+. Last Jedi Cinemascore was an A. These are much more closely aligned to critic reviews.
 
I honestly couldn't care less about the rotten tomatoes score. IMO it's a trash metric because like most things on the internet now, the only people voting are people that loved it or hated it, and it's susceptible to things like dorks going crazy over their Space Jesus in Luke Skywalker not living up to a perceived ideal.

Cinemascore ratings, a true survey, typically are a lot closer to critic reviews. Black Panther Cinemascore was A+. Last Jedi Cinemascore was an A. These are much more closely aligned to critic reviews.

Haha, based on the tone of your thoughts here, I'm going to maybe go out on a limb and say you liked The Last Jedi a lot. Hey, no worries, if you did. That is cool. There are others out there who did too. Always like what you like and never be ashamed of it.
 
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I read one of the "rotten" reviews this morning - Michael Philips of the Chicago Tribune - and his review was more glowing than his RT score reflected. An RT score in the high-80s is about what I expected for a film of this magnitude.

My biggest takeaway from these early reviews: If you're not seeing the movie this weekend then just avoid this thread (and possibly the entire internet altogether) until you do - it sounds like the ending is a giant cliffhanger and is going to generate a ton of buzz/speculation/debate at every water cooler/YouTube channel/message board.
 
I have heard they did some things in this movie that were very last jedi-ish. I don't know the details of what they mean because I don't want to be spoiled but there is a spec of concern. I have my tickets for saturday but considering going on Thursday night to avoid getting spoiled beforehand.
 
I really want to believe that and tend to believe that, but after the reviews for Last Jedi and even Black Panther to some extent, I'm a bit gun shy right now. The Last Jedi was one where I walked away very much disappointed after reading raving reviews, whereas Black Panther was to a much lesser extent, where the reviews raved about the movie like it was the best thing ever, yet I just found it to be good and somewhat overrated. Shoot, the same thing went for Thor: Ragnarok with me, so that means I've had some disparity on the last 3 movies which have been released. That makes a bit of a trend, at least with me personally. Therefore, maybe it is a good thing there is a few mixed things in these reviews. Who knows. I do have a lot of faith in the Russo Bros, so that helps a ton.

The comments in the reviews were the only part I care about.
They indicate that there are good character moments for a large # of characters in this film. Thanos comes off as credible and deep. There is apparently a huge moment that leaves the theater in shock.

I don't worry about the comparisons because it's time I won't spend. I just have things I look for and those are present, and all without spoilers.

Some reviewers struggled with the # of locales and stories going on. I'm going to assume those reviewers didn't read a lot of comics, and they've indicated that themselves, so no issue there.



I didn't see the Last Jedi, so I have no idea. They've lost my interest over there.
 
I have heard they did some things in this movie that were very last jedi-ish. I don't know the details of what they mean because I don't want to be spoiled but there is a spec of concern. I have my tickets for saturday but considering going on Thursday night to avoid getting spoiled beforehand.

Crap. Daughter and I have tickets for Saturday also. There weren't any available for earlier showings (at least, none that weren't in the first five rows of the theatre. I hate craning my neck straight up at the screen.) I hope spoilers don't ruin it for us either.
 
The comments in the reviews were the only part I care about.
They indicate that there are good character moments for a large # of characters in this film. Thanos comes off as credible and deep. There is apparently a huge moment that leaves the theater in shock.

I don't worry about the comparisons because it's time I won't spend. I just have things I look for and those are present, and all without spoilers.

Some reviewers struggled with the # of locales and stories going on. I'm going to assume those reviewers didn't read a lot of comics, and they've indicated that themselves, so no issue there.



I didn't see the Last Jedi, so I have no idea. They've lost my interest over there.

Yeah, there are a few big things myself I've looked for that get me really encouraged. For one, most everyone is praising the balance of humor, seriousness, and stakes, which is good. Also, everyone is raving about Thanos for the most part, which was a super big one for me. Lastly, I've heard all the characters are balanced really well, which is a really hard thing to do well, but also very key in the success of this movie. The fact that most all people are good on those things really brings up my baseline for this movie.
 
I didn't see the Last Jedi, so I have no idea. They've lost my interest over there.

TLJ ruined the franchise for me. I'm all about suspension of disbelief. We're talking about space travel and laser fights and hyperspace, so I can accept a lot of things. But I just don't like human behavior that doesn't hold up. Too many characters made crazy/stupid/uncharacteristic decisions in that movie, and I only accept that from scary movies. Also, I've got no problem with political statements in movies. Lots of movies are political. But good God, I appreciate a bit of subtlety. I don't want to get hit over the head with the message.
 
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TLJ ruined the franchise for me. I'm all about suspension of disbelief. We're talking about space travel and laser fights and hyperspace, so I can accept a lot of things. But I just don't like human behavior that doesn't hold up. Too many characters made crazy/stupid/uncharacteristic decisions in that movie, and I only accept that from scary movies. Also, I've got no problem with political statements in movies. Lots of movies are political. But good God, I appreciate a bit of subtlety. I don't want to get hit over the head with the message.

I disliked TFA enough that I didn't bother to get excited for this last one.
 
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I disliked TFA enough that I didn't bother to get excited for this last one.

I enjoyed TFA when it came out. Then I watched Episode 4 on TV recently, and it hit me just how closely each scene in TFA mirrored a scene from A New Hope. I never realized how much of a complete ripoff TFA really was until then.

Also, we're still marking "Winner" on all your posts, right? I read another thread recently where we were doing that for you. :D
 
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I'm so far behind on the MCU. I'm probably not going to see Infinity War for a while and I'm sure a lot will be spoiled.

Sucks, but I just can't keep up with movies without the ability to go to the theater very often. Stupid babies taking up all my time.

Understand. Shoot I'm living it myself. I'm just fortunate that once the kids are down around 8ish, she lets me jet out to a movie with buddies. For big ones like this, I even get to go to the opening showing. Hope I never see myself on here complaining about my wife because she is awesome :).
 
Quick little thought of preparation for Avengers: Infinity War for those interested, but what some know and some don't, there is always a few prelude comics prior to each MCU movie that are also canon and part of the overall MCU. Usually, they help a bit to set up what some of the characters are up to as we lead into the movie and maybe even give some more backstory to each movie. Anyway, I just finished up the couple prelude comics to Avengers: Infinity War which I'd recommend people check out. There is not a whole lot new or groundbreaking, but they do give some info on "The Raft" prison breakout, fixing Bucky in Wakonda, and what Cap, Sam and Black Widow are up to right now. Also, it does give a good little refresher course tracking down all the Infinity Stones we know of as well, as their history and impact on the MCU so far. While none of this is dire stuff, I would recommend them for anyone interested.
 

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