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Malou staying in NBA Draft

BWRhasnoAC said:
I don;t disagree with your larger point, but what do you think it looks like when inferior talent is playing superior talent? Pretty much Malou's videos. Now he isn't against people as good as him, but we don't have a single player on the team that can crossover drive the lane, and one handed tomahawk it besides maybe Burton. I'd have taken him in a minute.
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Never said I wouldn't have taken a chance on him. We had a scholarship available so I was cool with that. What I did say was:

1) if it was between taking a Malou or another proven 5th year grad transfer at the same position, I'd take the grad transfer
2). I'm not convinced from his limited videos that he would have been an all star player for us
3). I don't consider losing him a loss because we weren't even sure what we were getting and there are always players available given the current environment that is NCAA hoops
 
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Player A: Offers from KU and Arizona. NBA interest during his recruitment, opted for NBA Draft instead of college. Ended up having NBA summer league offers but will not participate because injured.

Player B: Averaged a career 4.7 points and 3 Rebs in 50 games for a mid major team that didn't even make the tourney. So much more proven than Player A, no way Player A could meet that production.

I thought "NO1fan" was a respectable poster around here, but damn you are losing points each and every time you try and justify this claim. It' is absolutely absurd.
 
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I wonder why the NBA drafts so many one and dones instead of 5th year seniors. I guess it's possible for people to tell when guys have talent instead of only being able to look at the box score like no1fan.

There's a hell of a lot more HS kids who will have better careers than grad transfers. You want a blend of them all, not just one or the other.
 
jkclone said:
Anyone heard about McKay?
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Checked out his Twitter after the draft, and it looks like a cousin that he was very close to was gunned down. Not sure if he had any invites to summer league or not, but I don't believe bball has his focus right now. Didn't want to creep on his Twitter too much, but his tragic tweet was right after his congrats to Niang and Nader. I think it might have happened on draft night.
 
MuseumFaux said:
Checked out his Twitter after the draft, and it looks like a cousin that he was very close to was gunned down. Not sure if he had any invites to summer league or not, but I don't believe bball has his focus right now. Didn't want to creep on his Twitter too much, but his tragic tweet was right after his congrats to Niang and Nader. I think it might have happened on draft night.
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I think they were watching the draft together and it happened while he was on his way home.
 
Goclones1727 said:
Player A: Offers from KU and Arizona. NBA interest during his recruitment, opted for NBA Draft instead of college. Ended up having NBA summer league offers but will not participate because injured.

Player B: Averaged a career 4.7 points and 3 Rebs in 50 games for a mid major team that didn't even make the tourney. So much more proven than Player A, no way Player A could meet that production.

I thought "NO1fan" was a respectable poster around here, but damn you are losing points each and every time you try and justify this claim. It' is absolutely absurd.
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You thought no1fan was a respectable poster?
 
We could have used him just based on his positional nature. Not that I don't think Holden and Bowie and the incoming youngsters won't have a good run at the post, but Malou would have played the game in a way different from any of them and anybody else on our roster.

Going through it...

Point guards --> Morris, Jackson
Shooting guards --> Thomas, Mitrou-Long, Long
Big wings, guard/post hybrids --> Burton, Babb
Brawling, "Hogue" style undersized posts --> Bowie, Young
"True" posts --> Holden, Carter, Lard

Something is missing in there--"stretch" posts. We've had the luxury of a number of good ones over the past few years in Ejim and Niang, as well as a Kane who had just as much offensive ability from the block as from the top of the key or on the drive. Even just having somebody like a JVB around would fulfill that role pretty well right now, for that matter.

I guess Burton is the closest thing we have to that mismatch archetype coming in... too fasts for traditional posts to guard and too good of a shooter, too big and powerful and strong in the post for traditional guards and wings to defend... but, forgive me, he isn't Niang, where I know he's going to hit 40% of his threes at volume and beat ANYBODY down low.

It sounds like Malou would have been that in spades, and he would have fit in a break-oriented, full-court offense. I'm glad we've got Bowie, Young, Holden, Carter, and Lard types around this year, when we lacked them last season, but having some analog to Georges would have been nice. I figured Malou would have been that. We'll make do, but, yeah, still nice to have.
 
Sigmapolis said:
We could have used him just based on his positional nature. Not that I don't think Holden and Bowie and the incoming youngsters won't have a good run at the post, but Malou would have played the game in a way different from any of them and anybody else on our roster.

Going through it...

Point guards --> Morris, Jackson
Shooting guards --> Thomas, Mitrou-Long, Long
Big wings, guard/post hybrids --> Burton, Babb
Brawling, "Hogue" style undersized posts --> Bowie, Young
"True" posts --> Holden, Carter, Lard

Something is missing in there--"stretch" posts. We've had the luxury of a number of good ones over the past few years in Ejim and Niang, as well as a Kane who had just as much offensive ability from the block as from the top of the key or on the drive. Even just having somebody like a JVB around would fulfill that role pretty well right now, for that matter.

I guess Burton is the closest thing we have to that mismatch archetype coming in... too fasts for traditional posts to guard and too good of a shooter, too big and powerful and strong in the post for traditional guards and wings to defend... but, forgive me, he isn't Niang, where I know he's going to hit 40% of his threes at volume and beat ANYBODY down low.

It sounds like Malou would have been that in spades, and he would have fit in a break-oriented, full-court offense. I'm glad we've got Bowie, Young, Holden, Carter, and Lard types around this year, when we lacked them last season, but having some analog to Georges would have been nice. I figured Malou would have been that. We'll make do, but, yeah, still nice to have.
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totally agree with your analysis. Malou was penciled in a starter at the 4-5 the day he signed to ISU. His ability at his size to shoot run and dribble isn't common thus the interest from a number of top programs even with his eligibility concerns.

I am intrigued by Holden's recent CCL interview and play. He showed a perimeter game and even a 3 pt shot backing it up by describing that was a part of his game that he has that ability but due to the Louis. Tech system he wasn't able to show it. It is only the CCL and I don't expect him to be a dynamic stretch 5 like Malou could have been. Holden could have more of offense ability and contribute on that end more than I was originally thinking.
 
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