Liberty Bowl postgame thread

[ISUTex]

Kansas is building a new football stadium.

Football funds so much of the AD, that basketball just can't do, so you still need to give it a significant amount of importance.

KU plays in a high school stadium, and they have way more money than ISU. You know why they have way more money than ISU? It ain't from football. If Cambell stays at ISU and we get 5-8 wins every year, that's ok, because that is about all ISU can afford. We will get plenty of football money just from being in the Big 12 (and we are not going to get kicked out if we aren't really good in football). Where is the money going to come from to try and compete with the Texas teams, Utah, Colorado, Kansas, Okie State and the Arizonas in football? It isn't there. We need to lean heavy on basketball.

 

[enisthemenace]

I mean he’s right. If you somehow lose to New Hampshire your tournament chances take a massive hit come March. Winning or losing the Liberty Bowl is just winning or losing the Liberty Bowl. It’s been shown time and time again there is virtually zero correlation to how you do in your bowl game and the result of next season. I mean hell we know it firsthand after winning the Fiesta Bowl, getting a top-10 preseason ranking with the entire team back and then doing nothing with it.

I guess.

 

[jctisu]

So, perception means nothing?

Aside from us does anyone remember we lost this game to a much worse Tulsa team? Or that we lost to fricking Rutgers in NYC? You have to take off the cardinal-colored glasses. Yes we as direct fans remember these games. But nobody else does. I mean outside of Iowa State fans and Oregon fans, I bet most can’t tell you Iowa State won a Fiesta Bowl with Brock Purdy. Hell, tons of NFL fans don’t know/remember Purdy went to Iowa State, and he’s the toast of the league right now.

 

[LAClone]

Well, given what I’m seeing in this thread, I’m glad I’ll never have to see the “BuT cAmPbElL wOn A fIeStA bOwL” defense again.

 

[3TrueFans]

Well, given what I’m seeing in this thread, I’m glad I’ll never have to see the “BuT cAmPbElL wOn A fIeStA bOwL” defense again.

That was a great game!

 

[ClubCy]

I’m

It's because it's a home game for them. That really shouldn't happen, but it keeps happening to ISU for some reason.

It is a game that has all upside for the g5 team, and almost entirely downside for the p5 team, and on top of that the g5 gets to be at home.

What is the point of bowl games if this is what we get?

It was a half filled stadium in not great weather. We didn’t walk into Death Valley on a Saturday night.

Want to be a serious program in the P4 going forward? Win the game by 10+.

 

[quasistellar]

Listening to the postgame pod...CW: "When the bowl projection came out, I didn't like the matchup for Iowa State."

He hated the matchup so much he called for a double-digit win numerous times on his podcast.

Never---and I mean NEVER--use CW's analysis as influence for your gambling. He's straight up terrible at it, as much as I like his content.

 

[RagingCloner]

Almost as embarrassing as the loss was CMC’s half time quote of them having an interim defensive coordinator so we couldn’t adequately prepare as we didn’t know what they would do. That’s a ******* pathetic excuse.

Yes, we’re a young team and there was growth this season, but it’s absolutely unacceptable for any Big 12 team to lose to G5 teams twice in a season.

I understand the excuse people say of - it doesn’t really matter, it’s basically an exhibition game. But recruits watch these games. Portal prospects watch these game. Possible donors watch these games. Possible season ticket buyers watch these games. Position coaches make career decisions partially based on a program building them up or embarrassing them.

Our recruiting has not taken the step it needs to take and our lack of ability to get needed positions via the Portal only further hurts those things in the future. If you’re a recruit prospect and you’re looking at what team can compete for a conference title, be competitive every game, and develop you for the future, games like this can cause serious pause.

The sky isn’t falling, but there has been zero momentum built off of the Fiesta Bowl season and games like today when the eyes are on you start to create narratives for opposing recruiters.

Sorry, interim DC? Did I miss something?

 

[awd4cy]

How bad was Oregon to lose to Campbell in a bowl game?

 

[madguy30]

I don’t for a second believe this game meant nothing, which was implied by saying a basketball game against a team Iowa State should beat by 40 means more.

If ISU loses Sunday, it might play huge into tourney bids.

Today's exhibition in a sea of them without full rosters was about as meaningful as the games last week that I can't even remember.

 

[jctisu]

Well, given what I’m seeing in this thread, I’m glad I’ll never have to see the “BuT cAmPbElL wOn A fIeStA bOwL” defense again.

Ok? Sure you want to win any game. But the Fiesta Bowl win or lose was about what Campbell did. He qualified for that game, which means he had a regular season like we haven’t seen here. Ever. NY6 games still signify you had one hell of a season. Winning them is gravy.

 

[WhoISthis]

Listening to the postgame pod...CW: "When the bowl projection came out, I didn't like the matchup for Iowa State."

He hated the matchup so much he called for a double-digit win numerous times on his podcast.

CW going to CW

Playing Memphis in the Liberty Bowl represented zero upside and a lot of downside

It would have been much better to get any P5 opponent in any other bowl

I had to laugh at those that convinced themselves it wasn’t anything but **** luck.

This talk of “much better to play a G5 and have 8 wins” as though they haven’t watched a CMC team outside of October and Nov

 

[Westside clone]

I am extremely proud of the players who came to play today with maximum effort.
Disappointed with the ones who didn’t.
Embarrassed for the coaches who got totally out coached for the bowl game.

Not worried about our coach moving on.

 

[aeroclone]

The basketball game is a regular season game that counts towards making the postseason, the bowl game is played a month after the regular season, where players sit out or transfer beforehand because it's an exhibition, and you get nothing competition-wise for winning.

If the bowl game is an exhibition, why does the result count toward our win loss record? Why do team and player stats count toward the record books? Why give out trophies and announce MVPs? Why do teams work all year to get bowl eligible if they don't intend to take the actual game seriously?

... and did someone forget to tell the Memphis players and staff that this was just an exhibition?

 

[cymac2408]

Not to be a Debbie downer, but I didnt have fun this afternoon

Yeah my Doberman went outside all afternoon. She wasn’t taking any chances.

 

[madguy30]

How bad was Oregon to lose to Campbell in a bowl game?

They had some speed but were young with no QB.

 

[madguy30]

If the bowl game is an exhibition, why does the result count toward our win loss record? Why do team and player stats count toward the record books? Why give out trophies and announce MVPs? Why do teams work all year to get bowl eligible if they don't intend to take the actual game seriously?

... and did someone forget to tell the Memphis players and staff that this was just an exhibition?

Does a CBI basketball tourney bid mean anything?

 

[3TrueFans]

If the bowl game is an exhibition, why does the result count toward our win loss record? Why do team and player stats count toward the record books? Why give out trophies and announce MVPs? Why do teams work all year to get bowl eligible if they don't intend to take the actual game seriously?

... and did someone forget to tell the Memphis players and staff that this was just an exhibition?

Relics of the past. If the game meant something there wouldn't be players on every team sitting them out. If it was an actual game they wouldn't open the transfer portal after the last game of the regular season and before all the bowl games.

 

[jctisu]

CW going to CW

Playing Memphis in the Liberty Bowl represented zero upside and a lot of downside

It would have been much better to get any P5 opponent in any other bowl

I had to laugh at those that convinced themselves it wasn’t anything but **** luck.

This talk of “much better to play a G5 and have 8 wins” as though they haven’t watched a CMC team outside of October and Nov

Yep. It’s why I loved playing Notre Dame and Clemson even though we lost both. Zero downside for us and only upside to beat a name brand team or at least see where we need to improve to get to another level. So many want “easy” opponents so we can get a bowl win. Well we lost a lot of bowl games, so it’s not a guarantee. We have losses to Memphis, Tulsa and Rutgers in the last 15 years in bowl games and every one of those games everyone thought were going to be easy bowl wins.

 

[WhoISthis]

So, perception means nothing?

Perception is nearly everything in football…and for the AD

Suggesting getting handled by a G5 on ESPN in an attempt at getting the 8th win is less important than New Hampshire game is extreme cope


Any singular football game is in a different stratosphere than a non-conference basketball game.

For all but 20 schools, every season is about having a good season/as many wins as possible. Your success in doing that means more than anything in college athletics- much more important than basketball postseason.

We can lose NH and still make the tournament with ease