Iowa Beat Writers

[Statefan10]

I think Kirk complained about it mostly after the game and this is what this article is from? I can't read the article because it is behind a paywall, so could be wrong.

I gotcha. If so, I then revoke my statement. CMC has definitely complained about refereeing, especially in the moment but I don't think he's made statements such as "that's a TD in the Big 12". We've gotten screwed more times than not and if I remember correctly he doesn't like talking about the calls to the media because usually those aren't the things that lose you the game.

The catch our WR made was a catch clear as day on replay. Being mad they didn't review it because the team wasn't ready is childish. Monte wasn't clearly in the end zone. There wasn't a shred of evidence the booth could gather (which were Big 10 officials btw) that could prove it was.

Kirk should've mentioned for both plays "Our guys have to be ready to play the next down regardless of what's called or what's not called." and "Our ball security has to be better on the goal line". Neither call was egregious, neither call determined the game. The call that almost did determine the game went Iowa's way and it still didn't matter.

 

[BCClone]

Gotta disagree on this one. I rewatched and he was pretty clearly still inbounds.

It wasn't called a late hit, it was unnecessary roughness. A late hit is inbounds, unnecessary roughness is hits that didnt' need to happen. He was being escorted out of bounds and forward progress was stopped. If he wasn't shoved, nothing more would have happened anyhow. DeJean shoved him when there was no need, hence unnecessary roughness.

 

[CyPunch]

Word to the wise as a defender. When the ball carrier is being engaged running straight out of bounds and is almost to the boundary, don't two hand shove him to finish him off. Especially a QB. You're correct that Dekkers was indeed not out of play yet, but it was very very close. To the naked eye, it looked late, especially considering Hunter's entire body was out of bounds except for his back foot.

I didn't like the call, personally. But the fact of the matter is that's something that's emphasized and going to draw a flag in the game of football in 2022. Need to tell your defensive guys to be smart about hits around the boundaries.

 

[BCClone]

Right, it literally does not matter at all if he's still inbounds. Lot of people still claiming this for some odd reason. Deckers was stacked up by 1 guy, driven into the boundary, and a second guy comes and forcefully shoves him violently while still maintaining contact with him while out of bounds finishing the violent shove. It literally makes ZERO difference that he "kind of started grabbing him an initiating the shove while Deckers was 1 inch inbounds" - it is textbook unnecessary roughness, 100 times out of 100. Why is this so hard to grasp? Whether you like or hate the rule, it is LITERALLY called all the ****ing time when a defense does that to a QB! We (rightfully) would have been livid pissed had that not been called.

It was also on first down, and did not extend the drive. We got 15 yards, and the officials made sure to give those 15 yards back (+5) to the suckeyes on the last drive - which, had they been successful at giving iowa their tie - would have been these single biggest ****job in the history of Iowa State athletics. TWENTY free yards for iowa's offense! My goodness that is INSANE that iowa was given that gift in that circumstance.

Wasn't it at the 20 so we only got 10 yards out of it.

 

[qwerty]

I think they beat Nevada, Rutgers, Northwestern, and Nebraska.

Not a be-all, but currently in FPI, Iowa is #55.
Nevada #106, W
@ Rutgers #63, L (Rutgers should be 3-0 and playing for bowl life as they have 5 sure Ls later)
Michigan #5, L
@ Illinois #58, L (I think BB wants to stick it to KF and at Illinois)
@ Ohio State #2, L
Northwestern #86, W
@ Purdue #26, L
Wisconsin #35, L (toss up, Wiscy revenge?)
@ Minnesota #23, L
Nebby #59, W

4-8 (is my hope), I could see them sneak one of Wiscy, Illinois, Rutgers (2 tops) so 6-6 is their ceiling, 5-7 most likely

 

[madguy30]

That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about publicly complaining

CPR did on the George fumble return.

 

[qwerty]

38 is a lot to ask from defense and special teams. If the offense can account for like, I dunno, maybe 21 of those points on their own without relying on short field position created by turnovers, then maybe they can get to 38 with some of what they're used to.

Vegas line is 31-8 Iowa. Even that is a lot for the offense. They would need 10 or more points courtesy of their defense.

 

[Pope]

He was a hair in bounds when Cooper engaged but was well outside of the boundary when the shove occurred. That's gonna get called every time, especially when a QB is involved.

Looks to me like the replay shows when initial contact was made, Dekkers had one foot in bounds and his other foot hadn't yet landed out of bounds, so technically Dekkers was still in bounds when initial contact was made. However, Dekkers was clearly being ridden out of bounds by another Hawkeye when DeJean decided to get a good lick on him, so it's not at all surprising the ref through the flag for unsportsman like conduct.

There was a lot of unsportsman like conduct on the Hawkeye sidelines and much of it was coming from their coaching staff. Not surprising their players mimick that behavior.

 

[BCClone]

Looks to me like the replay shows when initial contact was made, Dekkers had one foot in bounds and his other foot hadn't yet landed out of bounds, so technically Dekkers was still in bounds when initial contact was made. However, Dekkers was clearly being ridden out of bounds by another Hawkeye when DeJean decided to get a good lick on him, so it's not at all surprising the ref through the flag for unsportsman like conduct.

There was a lot of unsportsman like conduct on the Hawkeye sidelines and much of it was coming from their coaching staff. Not surprising their players mimick that behavior.

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Their DC was crushing his own nuts on the Iowa sideline. Looked painful.

 

[keepngoal]

Looks to me like the replay shows when initial contact was made, Dekkers had one foot in bounds and his other foot hadn't yet landed out of bounds, so technically Dekkers was still in bounds when initial contact was made. However, Dekkers was clearly being ridden out of bounds by another Hawkeye when DeJean decided to get a good lick on him, so it's not at all surprising the ref through the flag for unsportsman like conduct.

There was a lot of unsportsman like conduct on the Hawkeye sidelines and much of it was coming from their coaching staff. Not surprising their players mimick that behavior.

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This is what I have been saying… completing the shove = a flag. Simple, expected, routine call.

 

[nfrine]

So ISU fans, the AD, or coaches have never complained about the refs before?

No. We don't ever let those cheating MF'ing refs get to us.

 

[CyCity]

For the record, I thought Potterbaum was in before the fumble, thought the Dekkers shove was fine and that the ISU WR was juggling the ball on his way to the ground. I was fine with the no call on the X TD. Both were handfighting and X won.

I can see why Potterbaum's review wasn't over turned. If it was called a TD on the field, then I don't think it gets overturned either.

I also thought the end of the game was handled pretty bad too in Iowa's favor.

 

[clonedude]

This is what I have been saying… completing the shove = a flag. Simple, expected, routine call.

Agree... it has absolutely nothing to do with whether Dekkers was inbounds or not. It was NOT called a late hit.... it was called unnecessary roughness... which honestly is pretty much a subjective call and up to the official.

And the official rightly saw what everyone else saw.... it was completely unnecessary and potentially very dangerous, so he correctly threw the flag.

The Iowa defender had stood Dekkers up, stopped his forward progress, and was ushering him out of bounds when the other Iowa player came up and shoved him with both hands into the wall just a few feet out of bounds in Kinnick. It was the definition of unnecessary roughness.

 

[clonedude]

According to Iowa fans, and KF, that's "control" of the ball...... I guess?

 

[iahawks]

So he fumbled after he crossed the plane?

 

[clonedude]

The fact that the CR Gazette chose to put an article in their paper about how Iowa got jobbed in this game by the officials tells you all you need to know about eastern Iowa sports "journalism".... or just sports "journalism" in Iowa in general.... it's pathetic and a joke.

They all bow down to the mighty Hawkeyes in nearly every single case. The media and the Iowa fans in this state just cannot fathom that ISU can beat the mighty Hawkeyes.... so when it happens.... it must have been the officials that screwed Iowa out of a win, or ISU cheated, etc, etc. And shame on the media in this state for also jumping on this nonsense and putting out stupid articles like this one to only reinforce this false narrative amongst Iowa fans.

I'll be waiting for the CR Gazette's first article they publish about Iowa fans throwing stuff at ISU fans and other media (Barstool for example). It won't happen, but in all honestly there's more truth to that story than there is that Iowa lost the game because of the officiating.

 

[clonedude]

So he fumbled after he crossed the plane?

If that ball falls straight down from where it is in the pic, it lands before the goal line. And it came out a split second earlier than what is shown in that pic.

Do you realize how bad you look blaming this loss on officiating? Your team is terrible. I'm embarrassed that ISU messed up so bad throughout the game and didn't blow them out. Beating the worst offensive team in the entire country by 3 is embarrassing. Had ISU been sharper, they win by 2+ TD's easy. Iowa couldn't do anything on either side of the ball honestly. We all know Iowa's offense did nothing, but Iowa's defense couldn't stop ISU either for the most part.

 

[Statefan10]

So he fumbled after he crossed the plane?

Let it go lol. No one actually knows if he crossed the goal line or not because it was a bang bang play and there was not a shred of conclusive evidence.

 

[LarryISU]

So he fumbled after he crossed the plane?

Yes! After he crossed the plane of the one yard line. Finally, someone gets it!

 

[JM4CY]

So he fumbled after he crossed the plane?

Still in denial phase I see. Lol almost sad… ALMOST.