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I found it, the only 2 conference championships were in 1911 and 1912 Missouri Valley conference championships with Clyde Williams as head coach. It has only been 103 years. That is very interesting.
 
swarthmoreCY said:
I am glad we forced DMac out. It needed to be done- after 12 years things were stale.

The more we learn of CPR's ability to "build" a program, the more it becomes a fallacy he is better than DMac. If CPR had the task DMac faced he would have failed miserably, whereas had a young DMac somehow been hired after Chizik he would look a lot better IMO.
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Not so sure. CPR did things DMac never did. Like beat Nebraska at Nebraska. Beat Texas at Texas. Upset the undefeated #2 team in the nation. IMO, all those things are the main reasons he is getting the opportunity to coach this fall.
 
Bret44 said:
I like Mac as much as the next guy, but he ain't winning 8 or 9 games a year playing the all the south teams every year.
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He was the right guy at the right time but he was out of gas and we were not treading in the right direction. Not sure if we are or are not in 2015 but Dan gets a lifetime appreciation from me if for no other reason than the pure joy of watching Troy Davis run and attending that 2000 bowl win after the mega drought for bowls.
 
Stormin said:
Not so sure. CPR did things DMac never did. Like beat Nebraska at Nebraska. Beat Texas at Texas. Upset the undefeated #2 team in the nation. IMO, all those things are the main reasons he is getting the opportunity to coach this fall.
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Didn't realize CPR did that in the 90's. Good to know.
 
Deno said:
I found it, the only 2 conference championships were in 1911 and 1912 Missouri Valley conference championships with Clyde Williams as head coach. It has only been 103 years. That is very interesting.
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That is interesting. Its also interesting that as bad as Iowa State has been it never went 19 years without a winning season...
 
swarthmoreCY said:
Didn't realize CPR did that in the 90's. Good to know.
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IMO, both DMac and CPR were good coaches for Iowa State. Both have done good things. DMac was forced to resign. You need to get over it. The same fate may or not be the case for CPR. If it is, so be it. If it isn't, you will have to get over that as well.
 
Deno said:
I found it, the only 2 conference championships were in 1911 and 1912 Missouri Valley conference championships with Clyde Williams as head coach. It has only been 103 years. That is very interesting.
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Not as interesting as the yoga poses your mother showed me last night. Weird, I always thought you were supposed to wear clothes when working out?
 
Deno said:
It is very interesting how seldom ISU has winning seasons, and for how many of them they had to get a former Iowa coach to accomplish that. Or a former Iowa player going way back to Clyde Williams. Could you post some stats on conference championships and who was the coach when the cyclones won them too please.
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It is very interesting how many times you're banned or self-imposed banned from here and you have to keep coming back and focus on ISU. It's also very interesting that you actually left the Rivals forum this time.
 
swarthmoreCY said:
I am glad we forced DMac out. It needed to be done- after 12 years things were stale.

The more we learn of CPR's ability to "build" a program, the more it becomes a fallacy he is better than DMac. If CPR had the task DMac faced he would have failed miserably, whereas had a young DMac somehow been hired after Chizik he would look a lot better IMO.
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Ironically CPR helped DMac build that program.
 
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MissionIndy said:
I did some research and found that ISU has only had 13 winning seasons in football the past 50 years. Over half of those 13 years we finished one game over .500. MCarney had four of them and Earle Bruce three. Walden had a couple 6-5 years and as we know CPR has had one. Let's hope to start winning season number 14 Saturday against the Panthers!
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Sounds about right. This may come as a surprise to some of you.. but we have a historically horrid football program. Unfortunately that doesn't appear to be changing any time soon.
 
letsCYber said:
Sounds about right. This may come as a surprise to some of you.. but we have a historically horrid football program. Unfortunately that doesn't appear to be changing any time soon.
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I would suggest we play the games FIRST before passing judgement.
 
CyFanInChiLand said:
It still amazes me how we tossed Mcarney aside. I firmly believe f we would have kept him we'd have had a couple 8 or 9 win season since his departure
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Look at the number of fans and number of tickets sold now compared to when McCarney was here. Both are great coaches, but CPR clearly knows how to pick up a fan base and get them excited again.

We may have had success again under McCarney at some point, but we wouldn't have had the resurgence of the fan base as quickly.
 
First six seasons.

Dan 26-42
1 bowl win, 2 losses

CPR 29-46
1 bowl win, 2 losses

So no, even with a hell of a lot easier schedules, Dan wasn't better.
 
RustShack said:
First six seasons.

Dan 26-42
1 bowl win, 2 losses

CPR 29-46
1 bowl win, 2 losses

So no, even with a hell of a lot easier schedules, Dan wasn't better.
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Uhh, looks pretty damn similar. That's all most are trying to say. I'm glad Dan was let go when he was, and Rhoads should have been too after last year.
 
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