Ideal Big 12 Tourney Draw

I'm not sure who I want to face on Wednesday. One thing I do know, with Iowa State's tradition in KC, whoever sees ISU on their line will be like..."****.".
 
I don't think we're in the top 8 of this league in terms of talent, but if there was ever a year a 10 seed could win the Big 12 tournament, this is definitely the year. I don't even care who we draw, I think we can beat any team in the league if we play for 40 minutes, and that includes Lard giving a **** for 40 minutes.
Lard seems to give great effort, but gets saddled with crap fouls and is forced to avoid any incidental contact.
 
I wonder what kind of a following there will be in KC this year, since there’s a good chance for an early out

Seems like the following for game one would probably be light, but still heavier than what our opponent will bring. Game two would bring more fans, and so on. I'm still not seeing 4 wins in 4 days simply because we've barely been healthy enough to go through one solid game without looking tired.
 
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I don't think it matters. This team has no leadership. When we get in a funk, everyone just folds up the tent and let's the opponent run out the clock. Too many times we have "given up" with several minutes remaining on the clock. Whatever happened to playing until the last tick on the clock? With the 3 point shot, no lead should be too big to just "give up". Make the other team make free throws to beat you. Use every one of our 5 fouls until we have no one left on the bench. Hopefully Shayok and Jacobson will bring some leadership to next year's team. Maybe I got spoiled by our previous teams that routinely overcame double digit deficits to pull out a win.
 
I don't think it matters. This team has no leadership. When we get in a funk, everyone just folds up the tent and let's the opponent run out the clock. Too many times we have "given up" with several minutes remaining on the clock. Whatever happened to playing until the last tick on the clock? With the 3 point shot, no lead should be too big to just "give up". Make the other team make free throws to beat you. Use every one of our 5 fouls until we have no one left on the bench. Hopefully Shayok and Jacobson will bring some leadership to next year's team. Maybe I got spoiled by our previous teams that routinely overcame double digit deficits to pull out a win.

This year's roster doesn't have any seasoned veterans to take leadership role, and no "money" guy, either. On some teams, one player assumes both roles, other times it's separate. Someone may grow into either/both role next year and after, but this season, lack of both, coupled w/ so many role-transfers and youth (and injuries, to add insult to, uh, injury...).

Experienced leadership guys are like Ejim, Niang, Naz, Monte.
Money player examples: Royce, Kane, Niang, Monte.

Keep in mind, half those go-to's were 1-year transfer impact seniors. The others in each category didn't fall into either role until junior year.
 
This year's roster doesn't have any seasoned veterans to take leadership role, and no "money" guy, either. On some teams, one player assumes both roles, other times it's separate. Someone may grow into either/both role next year and after, but this season, lack of both, coupled w/ so many role-transfers and youth (and injuries, to add insult to, uh, injury...).

Experienced leadership guys are like Ejim, Niang, Naz, Monte.
Money player examples: Royce, Kane, Niang, Monte.

Keep in mind, half those go-to's were 1-year transfer impact seniors. The others in each category didn't fall into either role until junior year.

And even last year it seemed to take some time for the team to get used to not automatically looking for Niang to create for a needed bucket.

I think even Niang's senior year it may have taken him some time to be vocal in pulling people together aside from just scoring and jawing.

Roles are more than the position.
 
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If there was ever a year a 10 seed could win the Big 12 tournament, this is definitely the year.

Considering the overall dynamic of the league, it'd be higher odds than typical season.

Still, a rarity. Closest comparison I remember in past decade was Georgia being last in SEC East in '08, but winning the automatic bid.
 
Pretty much a wash this year.

I doubt many fans will be able to get here on a Wednesday, or want to for that matter.

I'm going Wednesday and usually always stay until Sunday but this year I only booked through Friday. If we win a couple I'll figure it out I guess lol
 
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I wonder what kind of a following there will be in KC this year, since there’s a good chance for an early out

Wednesday's turnout will be better than our opponents, but overall it won't be anything close.

Every business in the P&L has to be crapping themselves with how much money they are going to miss out on with our fan base not taking over for the weekend.
 
Wednesday's turnout will be better than our opponents, but overall it won't be anything close.

Every business in the P&L has to be crapping themselves with how much money they are going to miss out on with our fan base not taking over for the weekend.

Not sure about crapping themselves. With K-State doing pretty decent this year, it might soften the blow of ISU fans not being here in droves.
 
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Bumping this, should be able to narrow it down a little tonight, but when I run the bracket generator I keep getting Texas as a 1st rd opponent, if we would get an upset or 2nd round opponents have changed looks like KU would be off the table as they will be a 1, and WV has passed Tech for 2nd place, so quarters would be WV or Tech...
 
Bumping this, should be able to narrow it down a little tonight, but when I run the bracket generator I keep getting Texas as a 1st rd opponent, if we would get an upset or 2nd round opponents have changed looks like KU would be off the table as they will be a 1, and WV has passed Tech for 2nd place, so quarters would be WV or Tech...

Sign me up for Texas right now with no Davis and a dinged up Bamba
 
Bumping this, should be able to narrow it down a little tonight, but when I run the bracket generator I keep getting Texas as a 1st rd opponent, if we would get an upset or 2nd round opponents have changed looks like KU would be off the table as they will be a 1, and WV has passed Tech for 2nd place, so quarters would be WV or Tech...
I certainly think ISU could beat any of the teams that get the 7 seed, but playing WVU that next round would be tough.
 
I don't think it matters. This team has no leadership. When we get in a funk, everyone just folds up the tent and let's the opponent run out the clock. Too many times we have "given up" with several minutes remaining on the clock. Whatever happened to playing until the last tick on the clock? With the 3 point shot, no lead should be too big to just "give up". Make the other team make free throws to beat you. Use every one of our 5 fouls until we have no one left on the bench. Hopefully Shayok and Jacobson will bring some leadership to next year's team. Maybe I got spoiled by our previous teams that routinely overcame double digit deficits to pull out a win.

Perhaps you haven't had experience in watching teams with tremendous turnover and bad injury bugs (particularly against an extremely tough conference schedule)?

I've seen the team get frustrated at times. I have not seen them "give up".

This team hasn't set the world on fire, but they haven't underperformed from reasonable expectations given their experience level, massive player turnover and injuries.
 
Texas is my preference right now. I would also take either of the Oklahoma schools, but since we are playing both of them this week, Id prefer Texas. I want absolutely nothing to do with TCU.

In order...

Texas
OSU
OU
Baylor
TCU
 
Texas is my preference right now. I would also take either of the Oklahoma schools, but since we are playing both of them this week, Id prefer Texas. I want absolutely nothing to do with TCU.

In order...

Texas
OSU
OU
Baylor
TCU

I think I would have the same order...
 

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