Was just coming to add this. It started as weird rumor and then even fox news reported it today. It never made a whole lot of sense to me either. Why pull him over twice within ten minutes? And the second cop never even got his hands on footage lol
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My guess is there is some truth to it, and it was not supposed to be leaked/told, but some moron in one of the chain ran his/her mouth about how they had been watching him and even pulled him over etc.
And the FBI had to shut the story down because it is/was not exactly procedure, and without proper authority or warrant etc they would not be able to use anything. And portraying it the way they did, made it look pretty suspect for a defense lawyer to use against them.
I believe the story probably is at least somewhat true, but may have been exaggerated or embellished by someone, and for sure was not supposed to be released.
I agree, they had him by that point. I think they probably wanted him rattled to see what he'd do.
They are still trying to establish a motive, and not all details inside that house that night add up.
Yes, they were totally in the case building stage at that point. I am sure he was under surveillance and how much they did or didn't do as far as this story is probably up to a bit of interpretation at this point.
For one thing they almost had to watch what he was doing and follow where he was going for this simple fact they needed not lose him. And if for the fact that they believed he is guilty of multiple murders, to prevent him from doing it again, while they build their case, before arrest.
As many have said the Netflix documentary on this will be really interesting when it is all over.
It looks like the car was the key. The info I read stated:
- White Elantra was seen around murder house at the time of the killings.
- Traffic camera footage was able to track Elantra taking road commonly used to go from Moscow to Pullman
- The last camera footage of car was in Pullman less than a mile from BK's apartment.
- The police then asked for list of Elantra's from WSU and they narrowed it down to BK.
Maybe I am too midwestern....but I still can't associate this dude with high school heroin use as is floated out there. False info? Is that a thing in the Poconos?
May be true, idk. Like I said earlier in the thread I’ve been following Reddit pretty religiously on this case and when it got brought up that he had been pulled over twice in Indiana, a few posters started speculating that maybe they were tailing him. All of a sudden it took off like wildfire that they were indeed surveilling them and that was before the Fox News article came out this morning.
I’ll take the FBI at their word that it wasn’t apart of their case, especially when pulling him over twice in a short amount of time would be pretty alarming to a murder suspect. And again, the body cam footage from the second cop pulling him over captured Brian’s face for maybe half a second
Idaho suspect in student murders thoroughly cleaned vehicle, also seen wearing surgical gloves multiple times outside family home, source says | CNN
The man accused of murdering four University of Idaho students in November had thoroughly cleaned the interior and exterior of his car and was also seen wearing surgical gloves multiple times before being apprehended, a law enforcement source tells CNN.
He was wearing surgical gloves around his parents home and dropping off trash into his neighbors bins.
Guy is guilty AF.
Public doesn't need to know **** right now. The chances she had anything to do with it are miniscule. She likely was drunk and in shock and there's no way of knowing how you would actually respond. I don't know why she didn't call 911, but if she was in on it, there's no way it wouldn't have come out yet
This is from an earlier post of mine. Now it looks like the answer is the surviving roommate, D.M. was on the 2nd floor when the murder occurred. Looks like there are 2 bedrooms in the basement.
Is there another unidentified roommate that wasn't present that night? (6 bedrooms/Ethan didn't live there)
I just can't make any sense of the surviving roommate's story.
Starting with the crying-- who was crying? Who was saying "it will be ok I'm here to help"? I can't make any of this make sense in my mind. If he was leaving and the murder already happened, who would have been crying? Even if one of the girls wasn't all the way dead yet, I can't imagine qualifying the noise they were making as crying. I'd imagine there'd be screaming, yelling, etc. to the point you'd realize something was horribly wrong and you needed to call the cops.
Which brings me to the next question, how do you not call the cops? I'm trying to put myself back into college-- middle of the night, still probably a little drunk, etc. But if you were "paralyzed by fear" you knew this person had been there doing something bad. The "paralyzed by fear" part would seem to eliminate any idea that she just thought it was a houseguest of some sort leaving. I just can't imagine going back to bed.
Starting with the crying-- who was crying? Who was saying "it will be ok I'm here to help"? I can't make any of this make sense in my mind. If he was leaving and the murder already happened, who would have been crying? Even if one of the girls wasn't all the way dead yet, I can't imagine qualifying the noise they were making as crying. I'd imagine there'd be screaming, yelling, etc. to the point you'd realize something was horribly wrong and you needed to call the cops.
Which brings me to the next question, how do you not call the cops? I'm trying to put myself back into college-- middle of the night, still probably a little drunk, etc. But if you were "paralyzed by fear" you knew this person had been there doing something bad. The "paralyzed by fear" part would seem to eliminate any idea that she just thought it was a houseguest of some sort leaving. I just can't imagine going back to bed.
The more I think about this story the more I understand how it is possible it went so long without a roommate calling 911.
I lived at a cliche "party house" on Knapp St in Ames during school; we never locked our doors and even allowed a local "canner" to use our backdoor straight to the basement to take all the cans from parties after the weekend; half the time we never even knew when he went down there. I can think of various times I didn't have a clue who was strolling in the house after bar-close at 2am as we often had out of town friends visiting that we hadn't all met. That poor girl was probably caught in a mix of confusion, fear, and disbelief that caused a delay in making the call.
I lived at a cliche "party house" on Knapp St in Ames during school; we never locked our doors and even allowed a local "canner" to use our backdoor straight to the basement to take all the cans from parties after the weekend; half the time we never even knew when he went down there. I can think of various times I didn't have a clue who was strolling in the house after bar-close at 2am as we often had out of town friends visiting that we hadn't all met. That poor girl was probably caught in a mix of confusion, fear, and disbelief that caused a delay in making the call.
Which is more likely, that he was some weird houseguest or was a murderer killing most of the people in your house? Not with what you know now, but if you were in a party house that had decent traffic which is more likely; the houseguest. Easy to armchair QB this situation, but a lot less easy when you are in it.
Agreed. The roommate also had no idea what was going on/what had happened. From other articles, it appears this house had frequent gatherings. On a late Saturday night, likely after drinking, probably not an uncommon to have people coming and going. We have the luxury of knowing exactly what happened, after the fact. Anyone in the house would have been completely oblivious to what had actually happened, as it was happening (no reports of screaming/screams for help).
Pure assumption here, I'm guessing the roommate thought that the murderer was another one of their roommates guests walking around/leaving the house (referencing the incident of the surviving roommate seeing the murderer walk past her and leave the house). Opening the bedroom door at 4am to someone in close proximity, when not expecting it, likely startled her. I'm also guessing that her roommates being harmed did not cross her mind, she locked the door and passed out/went to sleep.
Edit: @ClonesFTW and @BCClone beat me to it
Also lived in very close proximity to Welch during school. Post bar-close, at that age, was pure bliss. Always had people coming and going. Not uncommon to wake-up in the wee hours of the night to people still drinking/partying in the house/apartment. Completely different mindset during your college years, which makes it difficult to put into perspective now.
I remember reading a few weeks ago that there was a 6th roommate on the lease that wasn't home on Nov. 13th. If that is indeed correct, she must have had the other bedroom on the 1st floor along with BF. DM and Kernodle had the two 2nd floor rooms and Kaylee and Maddie had the two 3rd floor rooms. That's my takeaway after reading the affidavit.
I was in a definite party room one year in the dorms. Oddest experience was I once woke up with my stereo blasting enter sandman. I was drunk and dead tired, I slept on the couch on a platform, I looked over the edge and this girl who worked at Big Earls was the one blasting the stereo. I only knew she worked there because others had brought her to other parties of ours and told me. It wasn't my CD so I told her to just take it and let me sleep. The next morning the geeky kid came to get his Metallica CD. I told him that I woke with and the stripper was in my room, she must have taken it so he needed to find her. Thankfully he left a little confused and never asked me to pay for it.
I guess that is slightly rivaled by one time I was sorting my CDs the morning after a party. I knew my roommates girlfriend had shown up and I heard the door open and a couple female voices. I was sitting behind a chest high bar we had and we couldn't see each other. All of a sudden, I noticed bits and pieces of the conversation and it seemed a little weird, I decided it was best to leave and stood up and started to the door, when I saw them, I noticed one was fully naked and one was partially naked. One said I could watch them "change" but I was a good friend and wasn't going to encroach on my friends gf, which apparently her friend didnt' care. So I left. Afterwards, I wish I would have taken them up on it, but the gf was complete psycho city.