Idaho killings
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for reference sake, I have been a Realtor in Des Moines for 20 years. I know of a couple houses that have been torn down because of murders. I also know of a couple that couldn't sell until an investor bought them for rentals. It is pretty easy for me to find out history on most houses. But legally the homeowner does not have to disclose crimes committed in the house under Iowa law. I think they are trying to change that and also disclosure of hauntings but it hasn't passed yet.
CycloneErik
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25 yr old male.
Correction, 28yr old male. PhD student in CRIMINOLOGY!!!!
Suspect in murders of 4 Idaho college students arrested in Poconos
The prosecutor said investigators believe Bryan Kohberger broke into the students' home "with the intent to commit murder."6abc.com
and holy **** this Reddit post:
A PhD is rarely good for the mind, but whoa.
Are you talking about the post were the person claimed it was two people, gave details and had nicknames for the victims? If not, what did he post?
We lived close to a house in WDM where a man murdered his wife and kids and then killed himself. The people who moved into had kids at our elementary. I just danced around the question, like “how do you like your new home?” They never mentioned the history and neither did I but never knew for sure. It was an infamous crime in Des Moines area anyway so not sure how they wouldn’t know.
Live updates: Latest on the Idaho University student killings
Local police will hold a news conference regarding the investigation into the killings of four Idaho college students as law enforcement sources tell CNN a suspect has been arrested. Follow here for the latest news updates here.www.cnn.com
DNA linked to crime scene?
Let's hope so. I hope they have the right person. But, innocent until proven guilty. Let's not forget. Wonder if there are others involved based on the question he asked.
If this IS the guy, it's like some type of Jack the Ripper type sicko. Or Dexter. Guarantee he would've killed again.
starting with 4 is a pretty big too - wouldn't be surprised if it isn't his first.
Or he's a criminology major trying to set up his defense case to sow doubt. The way the media projects all this stuff, it's pretty easy to taint future jury candidates without the candidates even realizing it.
The Netflix documentary is going to be a must watch.
Agree. The idea that some nonsense like that should be codified into law is absurd.
They were opaque and so nice, I didn’t want to ruin anything for them by mentioning in case they didn’t know. One of my son’s best friends lived right across the street and wanted to stay over at our house frequently on the weekends cause he was pretty freaked out by the whole thing,
Okay, so how would disclosure of hauntings work? You try to sue a seller for not disclosing, but then don't you have to prove the haunting exists in court? I can't see that ever getting anywhere.
I wouldn't go out of my way to live in one but it wouldn't deter me if the price was right and I liked the house.
most states you have to disclose hauntings. wouldn't be any different than anything else with a house and trying to sue someone because of not disclosing. You, as the buyer, have to prove without a doubt that the sellers knew and didn't disclose. Its very hard to prove that. Now, with hauntings. If a buyer sued because they didn't disclose the seller could just say they never heard or seen anything. The buyer can't prove that they did. The only way is if a neighbor knew that the seller knew and told the buyer and would speak on their behalf. Again, very hard in any instance let alone something like hauntings. This is why on every real estate contract there is a mediation clause. Easier to mediate than take someone straight to court.
In a yr it will be on the back burner someone will rent it. Locals will remember but new people moving will say same apartment $100 less than a similar one I'll take it.
Ok, but if the house really was haunted I would want to know that as the buyer.
What I think the law is really doing is codifying Stambovsky (a case out of New York). Basically, if you advertise the house as haunted, you need to disclose that to the buyer.
Take the Villisca Ax Murder house. The owners advertise it as being where the murders took place and is now haunted. It would probably be difficult to sell it as a residence because buyers aren’t going to want to deal with hassle that goes along with people thinking your house is haunted (increased notoriety, people stopping to look at the house, people wanting to look around the property, increased trespassing, etc.). This law would say “you’re going around telling people this house is haunted, you can’t now decide to withhold that from the buyer for your own benefit.” The proof wouldn’t be “I heard something go bump in the night,” it would be, “the previous owners told everyone the house was haunted and advertised that.”
How does one verify a haunting exactly? Do they sell test kits for it at Menards like they do for lead paint?